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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Of the 20 refugees (welfare seeker parasites) granted residency in Japan last year 2 have already been charged with gang rape. |
A Kenyan asylum seeker has been charged with murdering a young girl working in a PC bang. She was found with a chopstick shoved down her throat. |
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Titus2
Joined: 06 Sep 2015
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| Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Of the 20 refugees (welfare seeker parasites) granted residency in Japan last year 2 have already been charged with gang rape. |
A Kenyan asylum seeker has been charged with murdering a young girl working in a PC bang. She was found with a chopstick shoved down her throat. |
What the fk is a Kenyan seeking asylum from (other than having to live around other Kenyans, in a society run by Kenyans)? If being from a poor black shithole is sufficient for "asylum" than damn near every single black on earth is eligible. |
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Oldtimer
Joined: 17 Mar 2016
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:40 am Post subject: |
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| If the UK votes to remain in the EU on June 23rd, I'm emigrating. 5,000 ISIS in Europe, thanks to the mad sauerkraut sucker? I'm off, for reasons of basic safety. |
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Swartz
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| If the UK votes to remain in the EU on June 23rd, I'm emigrating. 5,000 ISIS in Europe, thanks to the mad sauerkraut sucker? I'm off, for reasons of basic safety. |
This defeatist attitude is a large reason why the long term outlook appears so dire in the UK. I don't know how much of an old timer you actually are, but you shouldn't abandon your homeland to the invaders just yet. Enough have already, it only makes the situation worse. You should up your skills and fight back, sire some children and train them to be strong and proud of their heritage so they can defend your nation's legacy and help de-Kuros the cucks when the time comes. I know things are pretty bad there, but running away and making excuses for why you didn't stand up is not a solution, bruv. |
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3DR
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I refuse to discuss immigration policy in this thread. There are other threads where it is relevant. This is not one of them. |
These attacks are the direct result of allowing millions of Muslims into the West. Immigration policy is entirely relevant. |
Nope. These attacks are the direct result of bombing Middle Eastern countries. The Belgian nation signed on for the risk of this. Every country that bombs a country in that region risks suffering terrorist attacks.
For example, 9-11 was caused by Saudis (and others) almost entirely on non-immigrant visas. I am sure that you may well respond that no Muslims should ever be allowed to travel into European countries whatsoever. So what? That is not why Brussels was attacked.
Korea is not attacked by ISIS. We all know why. Immigration policy does not enter into it. |
And what countries did Indonesia, India, Turkey, etc bomb? Because they get way more attacks compared to Western countries. So tired of these apologetic nonsense. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| I refuse to discuss immigration policy in this thread. There are other threads where it is relevant. This is not one of them. |
These attacks are the direct result of allowing millions of Muslims into the West. Immigration policy is entirely relevant. |
Nope. These attacks are the direct result of bombing Middle Eastern countries. The Belgian nation signed on for the risk of this. Every country that bombs a country in that region risks suffering terrorist attacks.
For example, 9-11 was caused by Saudis (and others) almost entirely on non-immigrant visas. I am sure that you may well respond that no Muslims should ever be allowed to travel into European countries whatsoever. So what? That is not why Brussels was attacked.
Korea is not attacked by ISIS. We all know why. Immigration policy does not enter into it. |
And what countries did Indonesia, India, Turkey, etc bomb? Because they get way more attacks compared to Western countries. So tired of these apologetic nonsense. |
I was talking about the Brussels (and Paris attacks) perpetrated by ISIS. You are talking about other bombings outside of Europe.
If I gave you the impression that I was apologizing for ISIS, perish the thought. I am not blaming the West for attacking ISIS, I am blaming Western leaders and media for their dishonesty about the straightforward connection between the West's attacks on ISIS and the resulting bombings of Paris and Brussels. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Plain Meaning wrote: |
| 3DR wrote: |
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| I refuse to discuss immigration policy in this thread. There are other threads where it is relevant. This is not one of them. |
These attacks are the direct result of allowing millions of Muslims into the West. Immigration policy is entirely relevant. |
Nope. These attacks are the direct result of bombing Middle Eastern countries. The Belgian nation signed on for the risk of this. Every country that bombs a country in that region risks suffering terrorist attacks.
For example, 9-11 was caused by Saudis (and others) almost entirely on non-immigrant visas. I am sure that you may well respond that no Muslims should ever be allowed to travel into European countries whatsoever. So what? That is not why Brussels was attacked.
Korea is not attacked by ISIS. We all know why. Immigration policy does not enter into it. |
And what countries did Indonesia, India, Turkey, etc bomb? Because they get way more attacks compared to Western countries. So tired of these apologetic nonsense. |
I was talking about the Brussels (and Paris attacks) perpetrated by ISIS. You are talking about other bombings outside of Europe.
If I gave you the impression that I was apologizing for ISIS, perish the thought. I am not blaming the West for attacking ISIS, I am blaming Western leaders and media for their dishonesty about the straightforward connection between the West's attacks on ISIS and the resulting bombings of Paris and Brussels. |
Well I thought John Kerry's comments were pretty close to accurate. ISIS is losing a lot of territory (due in large part to those bombings), and it is trying to perpetuate its image of being "strong" by supporting the bombings in the EU. Those bombings would not be possible if not for the large # of (poor) Muslim immigrants who have immigrated to the EU in recent decades.
Immigration policy certainly has played a role in the security problems that western Europe is now having to deal with.
The question is: why is the EU so lousy at integrating immigrants? I mean I thought it was an economics thing (poor Muslims going to EU, well-off ones go to North America), but a lot of Arabs in places like Dearborn aren't upper middle class professionals either.
Not related to terrorism, but good article on a Yemeni-American boxer from Dearborn |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| The question is: why is the EU so lousy at integrating immigrants? |
Asked differently: why are Muslims so lousy at integrating into European nations? |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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"The jurist and legal adviser was killed in the metro attack. Her father, an economics correspondent for the state broadcaster RTBF, appeared on an evening bulletin and said: “Lauriane had extremely strong values that she fiercely defended, including equality, justice, tolerance, gender equality. I’m not naive, I know very well that security is essential today. But I think that if we build walls of exclusion, if we cultivate hatred, we’re heading for disaster. If we want a different world in the future, we need respect, tolerance and love. And we owe that to all the Laurianes in the world.”
Some people are just hopeless.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/28/brussels-attacks-the-confirmed-victims |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| But I think that if we build walls of exclusion, if we cultivate hatred, we’re heading for disaster. If we want a different world in the future, we need respect, tolerance and love |
And perhaps that is why there was no wall in the first place?
Only a mental midget would fall for that emotionalism. |
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chellovek
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:17 am Post subject: |
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| The question is: why is the EU so lousy at integrating immigrants? |
I think policies with regards to that fall to national governments, not the EU.
Just for the edification of our American readers here- Europe, like Africa, is not a country. For the edification of swivel-eyed British UKIP types- the EU is not a superstate.
Although to hazard a quick and superficial answer to your question (this stuff isn't my area of scholarship so take this for what it is- an off-the-cuff casual opinion), in "Europe" I think the culture is a lot more historically bedded-in that can make it a more demanding environment to assimilate into for outsiders. France is a great example of that, the quality of being 'French' is not some part-time add-on to your trendy hyphenated identity.
Compare that to here in the US, the culture here is a lot more anemic despite the noise and marketing, at least in my experience having lived in both the US and more than one European country. I can easily see how people can assimilate more readily here, I find the US to be a fairly undemanding cultural and social environment compared to other places I have lived. Also due to the lower-density nature of where I live, I need have very few public interactions even without becoming some recluse. |
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