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Quitting, but are the contract penalties legal?

 
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houndf



Joined: 24 Sep 2013

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 7:04 pm    Post subject: Quitting, but are the contract penalties legal? Reply with quote

I need some advice regarding my situation. I'm currently 9 months through an 18 month contract. The long-short is my boss is just very unprofessional and doesn't give the teacher's any ounce of respect. I'm planning to prepare my legal documents and start the job search.

I'm planning to contact the ministry of labor but I'd value your experiences. My question is regarding a few things:

In my contract there are some contradictions. In one clause regarding transportation it says that if the teacher leaves school before completing the contract that the teacher must refund the flight. In a later clause it states that if the teacher quits before completing 6 months they have to reimburse the flight. So I'm assuming that, per contract, I'd have to pay back the flight.

It also states that in case of resignation I have to give a 60 day notice and that "the teacher will not receive the last month's salary for any inconvenience being caused." Is that even legal?

I want to be as professional about this but I cannot be sure if I can count on them to be as well. If I had to pay back the flight and work an entire month without salary, if I did a run would that create any issues on getting things for the public school?

Thanks in advance
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pmwhittier



Joined: 03 Nov 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take some time and search these forums. You'll find that nearly every clause that seems odd in employment contracts is illegal. So yes, them financially penalizing you for leaving your job before the completion of your contract is illegal. Can you enforce it? No. So they keep 2 or 3 million won from you. It'll take months (if not years) to fight them in the Korupt Korean Legalz system and then you run the risk of losing your case because you're not a Korean. In addition to this, the amount of money required to fight it (legal fees, lawyers, etc) is well north of the 2 or 3 mil you missed out on.

I'm not even going to go into 'why do you have an 18 month contract?'. That should have been your first clue that something was off about this gig. But you live and learn. And then you pull a runner. The very same day as you're paid, get out of that situation.

There are smarter people than me that can fill you in on specifics and quote the labor law, but I don't have the time to do your homework.

And finally,

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if I did a run would that create any issues on getting things for the public school?


I don't understand the question.
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houndf



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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pmwhittier, thanks for the answer. I have found some information, though some of it dates back 10+ years and I am not sure if or how that might have changed.

The last bit, I meant, say if I ran to another country, after taking my last paycheck, would that somehow affect me getting a job at a public school?
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houndf



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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I contacted MOEL and they stated that the clause was illegal and that I should consult with my employer and change the contract. Does anyone know how that would affect my severance? As in, would I be signing a new contract or what is this transition considered?
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pmwhittier



Joined: 03 Nov 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I contacted MOEL and they stated that the clause was illegal and that I should consult with my employer and change the contract. Does anyone know how that would affect my severance? As in, would I be signing a new contract or what is this transition considered?

You've been in the Korea for at least 9 months, so you should know some things by now. You're asking some extremely green questions, so I'm going to tell you some brutally honest answers.

If you bring up to your employer that their contract is anything less than absolutely perfect in any way, they will LOSE FACE. You must have encountered that term by now, being in the country for as long as you have. Causing a Korean to lose face may result in:

Termination of employment
Threats of deportation
Threats of "I sue you! I sue you!"
Threats of preventing you from ever working in this country again
Threats of kicking you out of your apartment immediately
Threats of kimchi slapping you

People all around the globe don't like to be told that what they're doing is illegal or improper, but Koreans take it to a whole other level.

You have two options: Stick it out for the remaining 9 months and keep your mouth shut or pull a runner. If you actually made it to the end and keep your thoughts to yourself, you might see the severance. Otherwise, cut your losses and move on.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Quitting, but are the contract penalties legal? Reply with quote

houndf wrote:
I need some advice regarding my situation. I'm currently 9 months through an 18 month contract. The long-short is my boss is just very unprofessional and doesn't give the teacher's any ounce of respect. I'm planning to prepare my legal documents and start the job search.

I'm planning to contact the ministry of labor but I'd value your experiences. My question is regarding a few things:

In my contract there are some contradictions. In one clause regarding transportation it says that if the teacher leaves school before completing the contract that the teacher must refund the flight. In a later clause it states that if the teacher quits before completing 6 months they have to reimburse the flight. So I'm assuming that, per contract, I'd have to pay back the flight.

It also states that in case of resignation I have to give a 60 day notice and that "the teacher will not receive the last month's salary for any inconvenience being caused." Is that even legal?

I want to be as professional about this but I cannot be sure if I can count on them to be as well. If I had to pay back the flight and work an entire month without salary, if I did a run would that create any issues on getting things for the public school?

Thanks in advance


The most professional thing you can do with an employer like that is wait until you get paid and leave.

Take a quick flight to anywhere. Hand in your ARC as you leave (canceling your visa and ARC).

Return and start again or head for China.

Everything you asked about is illegal but the cost of the fight is probably more than what you would recover.

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