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Making the transition to a university job in Korea
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big famous Korean universities ice teachers who get caught working outside

Every university contract says you may not work for someone else. .

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Scott in Incheon



Joined: 30 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Every university contract says you may not work for someone else. .


Simply not true.
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frankhenry



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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GENO123 wrote:
Big famous Korean universities ice teachers who get caught working outside

Every university contract says you may not work for someone else. .

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http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2627056&highlight=#2627056
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No. Every university contract does not say that.
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What goes on at hong ik and seoul natl more or less goes on at most big famous schools


This i s what the vast majority of them do

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http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2627056&highlight=#2627056[/quote]


There might be some Outliers but most of the big famous schools are absolutely horrible places to be. . Lets just say that any school that doesn't provide one with enough income to support a family and then turns around and says you can't work outside is nothing more than a sham job and ought to be blacklisted.

I would bet the list of Korean universities who match such a description would would be quite long.
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goat



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geeezzzzz~ You have changed your story from every to more or less. Shocked

Anything else you want to change?
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trueblue



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of curiosity, is there anyone working for a university with only a Bachelor's Degree?

I knew a couple of folks back in the day, but, now...I have no idea.

I'm just curious:)
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GENO123



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

goat wrote:
Geeezzzzz~ You have changed your story from every to more or less. Shocked

Anything else you want to change?
i am right and you are wrong. Then and now.
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thrylos



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trueblue wrote:
Out of curiosity, is there anyone working for a university with only a Bachelor's Degree?

I knew a couple of folks back in the day, but, now...I have no idea.

I'm just curious:)


Yup, though I do have years of experience and a CELTA, FWIW. There are some jobs listed now that will consider you with a Bachelors- Kaya, Naval Academy, Hansung, etc.

I guess with all the competition, many unis can be selective. Also, they get higher 'points' in the gov't rankings if they have 'visiting assistant professors' with MA/PhD.
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World Traveler



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PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2016 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that true? I heard a BA + 4 (4 years of uni schooling + 4 years of uni teaching) is like an MA + 2 (6 years of uni schooling + 2 years of uni teaching). A PhD is 8 years of uni schooling (or more), so no uni teaching experience is required for that one. BAs can easily get uni positions if they already have four years or more of university teaching experience. And the irony is it was easy in the past to get a uni job with an unrelated BA and year or two at a hagwon or public school (and that was back when hagwons and public school would hire anyone eligible for a visa), but no more. The middle aged guys working in unis with only a BA lucked out. They were in Korea back before hardly anyone in the world had heard of it, hence competition was lower.

Nowadays ads say:
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Only those with the following qualifications will be considered.
1. PhD degree
2. Master's degree + two years of full time college-level teaching experience
3. Bachelor's degree + four years of full time college-level teaching experience

So those without prior university teaching experience would have to get a PhD in order to be considered. But it that really worth it for this?:
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Wages: 2,100,000 KRW per month

That's $411 a week. In America, the median usual weekly earnings for a BA holder is $1,137, for an MA holder $1,341, and for a PhD holder $1,623.
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