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Swartz



Joined: 19 Dec 2014
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh, they is.
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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004
PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Swartz wrote:
catman wrote:
Swartz wrote:
catman wrote:
Swartz wrote:
catman wrote:
Swartz wrote:
Plain Meaning wrote:
Swartz wrote:
Plain Meaning wrote:
Whoever said ISIS were 'victims?' Maybe Swartz. Nobody else.


You are portraying them as victims by posting their supposed retaliatory motives against the West here and ignoring the real reasons for their behavior.


A remarkable logical fallacy. Labeling conduct retaliatory is not the same as indicating victim status.

You can find this post from about the same time: Beirut Attacks


ISIS killed 37 in Beirut. ISIS are not victims at all. ISIS is retaliating to Western offensives.


ISIS calls for more attacks on West during Ramadan

ISIS will rely on more guerrilla-style attacks against the West

CIA Director Warns Of More Islamic State Attacks In The West Amid Losses In Syria, Iraq

It is fairly straightforward cause and effect.


Don't try to hide your motives now, you've already made them quite clear.

Anyway, ISIS was created by Western interests, dope. ISIS is a proxy sect of mercenaries that is accomplishing tasks the US/Israel cannot officially undertake at the moment. That's why ISIS hasn't attacked Israel, that's why their soldiers have actually been treated in Israeli hospitals then let back onto the battlefield, and that's why they are attempting to destabilize Israel's enemies in Syria and Lebanon, which is clearly to no one else's benefit BUT Israel. That's why the US only pays lip service to taking ISIS out and it's why Putin called our bluff, stepped in to protect Assad from them, and is currently taking them out himself. And it's why the US is even more unhappy with Russia at the moment and using the Turks to disrupt their operations. ISIS doesn't seem like the most centralized group, and perhaps it's gotten out of control, but at this point you're a moron if you're incapable of making the basic connections I just outlined for you above and extrapolating the obvious.



Evidence?


Google?


Can you use Google as a footnote on an essay?


Are you writing an essay about ISIS?


I'm talking about properly sourcing your claims.


Until you show that you're capable of responding to me with substance greater than one word or one sentence, I'm not going to serve as your personal researcher. I explained how it is, now Joogle it and inform yourself.


You are the one making the claim. You are the one who has to provide evidence when asked. Otherwise it is just baseless supposition to conform with your ideology.
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Titus2



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
What exactly do you want a source for?
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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004
PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Titus2 wrote:
What exactly do you want a source for?


That ISIS is a proxy of the US and Israel.
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
French people can't even celebrate Bastille Day in peace now because they have imported millions of unassimilable Muslims into their country.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/07/14/truck-crashes-crowd-celebrating-bastille-day-several-dead/

If the French don't elect Marine president it may be too late.
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trueblue



Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
bigverne wrote:
French people can't even celebrate Bastille Day in peace now because they have imported millions of unassimilable Muslims into their country.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/07/14/truck-crashes-crowd-celebrating-bastille-day-several-dead/

If the French don't elect Marine president it may be too late.


Careful, BV...Geno-Beno is on the prowl.

This is horrible and my heart goes out to our French brethren.
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
trueblue wrote:
bigverne wrote:
French people can't even celebrate Bastille Day in peace now because they have imported millions of unassimilable Muslims into their country.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/07/14/truck-crashes-crowd-celebrating-bastille-day-several-dead/

If the French don't elect Marine president it may be too late.


Careful, BV...Geno-Beno is on the prowl.

This is horrible and my heart goes out to our French brethren.
well someone has to point out when there is a nazi protector in the house.
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trueblue



Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
GENO123 wrote:
trueblue wrote:
bigverne wrote:
French people can't even celebrate Bastille Day in peace now because they have imported millions of unassimilable Muslims into their country.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/07/14/truck-crashes-crowd-celebrating-bastille-day-several-dead/

If the French don't elect Marine president it may be too late.


Careful, BV...Geno-Beno is on the prowl.

This is horrible and my heart goes out to our French brethren.
well someone has to point out when there is a nazi protector in the house.



LOL! Yeah, some mythical person is hiding here.

Geno-Beno..isn't it about time for morning milk?

Now...I, have a life, so....have fun with this!
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
trueblue wrote:
GENO123 wrote:
trueblue wrote:
bigverne wrote:
French people can't even celebrate Bastille Day in peace now because they have imported millions of unassimilable Muslims into their country.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/07/14/truck-crashes-crowd-celebrating-bastille-day-several-dead/

If the French don't elect Marine president it may be too late.


Careful, BV...Geno-Beno is on the prowl.

This is horrible and my heart goes out to our French brethren.
well someone has to point out when there is a nazi protector in the house.



LOL! Yeah, some mythical person is hiding here.

Geno-Beno..isn't it about time for morning milk?

Now...I, have a life, so....have fun with this!





Part of you life is defending nazis
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Plain Meaning



Joined: 18 Oct 2014
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
bigverne wrote:
French people can't even celebrate Bastille Day in peace now because they have imported millions of unassimilable Muslims into their country.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/07/14/truck-crashes-crowd-celebrating-bastille-day-several-dead/

If the French don't elect Marine president it may be too late.


It's the war against ISIS. Would-be suicide terrorists can visa-jump, y'know.
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Would-be suicide terrorists can visa-jump, y'know.


A good argument for a blanket ban on Muslim immigration then.

How exactly do Western countries benefit from Muslim immigration again?
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GENO123



Joined: 28 Jan 2010
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
FIRE AT EIFFEL TOWER...
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Swartz



Joined: 19 Dec 2014
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Plain Meaning wrote:
It's the war against ISIS.


No, it's their nature.
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bigverne



Joined: 12 May 2004
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nice-bastille-day-attack-lorry-driver-tunisian-french-31-identified-by-french-media-a7137986.html

The attacker was a Tunisian immigrant. Plain Meaning and people like him want Muslim immigrants (among whom will be Jihadis) to continue coming to the West. He accepts that slaughtered children and mass rapes are a price worth paying for 'diversity.'
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Plain Meaning



Joined: 18 Oct 2014
PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am simply not going to be intimidated. The French can do as they see fit.
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