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| How will the DJT Presidency be regarded? |
| Greatened America |
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38% |
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| Bankrupted America |
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33% |
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| Entertained America |
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8% |
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| Enraged America |
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19% |
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J.Q.A.
Joined: 09 Feb 2017
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
It is still so early.
I would say that the flurry of apparent activity masks the late constitution of the administration; reports consistently indicated that the Trump Administration was behind schedule on submitting required information on nominees. Nonetheless, it seems key positions are coming online, and the Democrats were unwilling to play politics at all with Mattis, Kelly, or Pompeo (I would further argue the former two are qualified and worthy to hold their offices).
As for the Muslim Ban, Trump has not appealed to the Supreme Court. It seems he will back up, punt, and try again. This is the best method. Its a lot better than insulting judges and trying to go to war with the judiciary. It shows some promise, anyway. |
Why would Trump need to appeal to the Supreme Court regarding a decision he made, in which he has the legal authority to execute? Again, it is not a "muslim ban"...if that were the case, as I have said before, S.A. and Indonesia would be on the suspension list.
However, as anyone can tell, Trump is not a politician...by conventional standards. Arguablly, that is one reason he won. Be that as it may, I do agree he should not go to war with the judiciary.
I did not vote for the guy (nor clinton, sanders or other mainstream candidates). I think he may have "made is bed" a bit too early with the mainstream press providing an inaccurate peep-show. But, in going along with the transparent left-right paradigm, scripted as it is, I support most of what he wants to do (you know...how policies and platforms don't necessarily change but the parties that embrace them do). He very well may be trying to truly act presidential, for the good of the country.
Let's see if we can as JFK how that worked out for him. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
For those of you who think this administration has been super active, I'm sorry but basically his EOs have been a lot of bluster with little bite. And what has Congress passed that has made sweeping changes? Nothing that I'm aware of. |
Yes, this is the new approach I've been noticing in the media: "He's not getting anything done." Politico, for example, tells us, "President Trump has done almost nothing," including a very telling phrase which reveals the motive behind the piece: "It is the illusion of a presidency, not the real thing." And what's so bizarre about the piece in question is that in trying to downplay Mr. Trump's executive orders, it actually undermines the attempt to make him seem like the "confused, chaotic, incompetent" individual as which the broader media establishment has aggressively tried to portray him. Consider this point, for example:
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| On it goes: The recent crackdown on undocumented immigrants that followed Trump’s January 25 order on enforcement priorities may depart from Barack Obama’s post-2102 policies to de-emphasize deportation of undocumented immigrants who do not have criminal records, but it appears fully consistent with deportation actions during both Obama’s first term and during significant portions of George W. Bush’s administration. |
Two things can be taken from this. First, one can see that he actually did make a policy change in comparison to Obama's second term, and whether that's an "achievement" or not, it is still doing something. Secondly and perhaps more importantly, the same hysterical press that is framing him as vigorously racist against Mexicans is acknowledging that his policy in this matter mirrors that of Obama's first term. Consider another:
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| Or take the orders of deregulation. Those were widely hailed as a rollback of Dodd-Frank, especially given that the morning that the order was issued, February 3, Trump met with bank CEOs and expressed his dislike for many of the legislation’s provisions. The actual order, however, delivers much less than it promises, merely directing the secretary of the Treasury to review existing regulations and report back on which ones might be refined to achieve better outcomes. |
This is clearly doing something, because reviewing policy and gathering information is useful, so the underlying point seems to be, "Well, we expected him to be hysterically anti-regulation, but his order was too measured to meet that standard, so instead we're going to say it amounts to nothing."
The best part of the article is where it more or less admits the "racist" wall against which so much invective has been thrown has already in part been built, and that much of the work happened under the Obama administration. I don't see how anyone who hates Donald Trump as he's been presented by major media outlets while loving Barack Obama can read this article without experiencing cognitive dissonance. In their rush to employ their latest tactic, it seems like these people forgot they were painting an image of a hasty, over-reaching, totalitarian madman. "He's mostly been gathering information and expressing priorities and intentions," just doesn't sound as horrible, does it? At least until you frame it as "the illusion of presidency."
If he does something, it's authoritarian (code for Nazi) overreach, and if he approaches matters in a measured fashion, it's 'not real presidency.' "Heads I win, tails you lose." And while they're at it, they give advice on how Clinton could approach a 2020 run. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| J.Q.A. wrote: |
| Why would Trump need to appeal to the Supreme Court regarding a decision he made, in which he has the legal authority to execute? Again, it is not a "muslim ban"...if that were the case, as I have said before, S.A. and Indonesia would be on the suspension list. |
Did you perhaps forget the part where Trump said he'd prioritize Christians from the countries on the ban's list? The judge obviously did not. |
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J.Q.A.
Joined: 09 Feb 2017
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| J.Q.A. wrote: |
| Why would Trump need to appeal to the Supreme Court regarding a decision he made, in which he has the legal authority to execute? Again, it is not a "muslim ban"...if that were the case, as I have said before, S.A. and Indonesia would be on the suspension list. |
Did you perhaps forget the part where Trump said he'd prioritize Christians from the countries on the ban's list? The judge obviously did not. |
Are you asking yourself why the Obama administration refused to let Christian Syrian refugees, aside from a VERY small number compared to their Muslim brethren?
But, to answer your question, whether or not I forgot is not relevant. What matters, for me, is that I don't have a problem with Trumps decision on the matter. However, I don't know anything regarding a "ban" list.... |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| goat wrote: |
If President Donald Trump fails to make an effort to back up his campaign promises that would convince his supporters he has failed. He is following up on his promises. That is what his supporters want him to do. That is what I want him to do.
Trump may not create the number of jobs he wants to create. The cities may not become paradises. The list goes on. However, I do like his plans. I hope he is able to get some of those plans accomplished, at least partially. I believe he is a person of action. I see his plans as positive change. Make the cities safer and provide jobs for people to have opportunities.
Ultimately, it will be up to the people to make the country great. I believe Trump is sincere and has good plans. Do the people want a great country or do they want to fight amongst themselves? If the people will support Trump, I believe the country will be a much better place. |
I remember confronting China was a campaign promise.
He backed down on a confrontation with China like a beta.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/world/asia/donald-trump-china-xi-jinping-letter.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/opinion/trumps-china-reversal-a-bully-backs-down.html?_r=0
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| Mr. Tillerson specifically rejected the idea, advanced by Mr. Trump, that Taiwan be used as a bargaining chip in a broader negotiation with China on trade, security and other issues. |
Yes, I remember now why I made no noise about Tillerson. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm sorry, but DJT is a not mentally fit to be President. He hasn't completely lost his mind, and sometimes seems to be coherent, but often he just goes off the rails and rambles on about himself. |
This Valentine's Day post predicted the disastrous press conference on Friday.
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/16/donald-trump-rants-raves-press-donald-trump-says-accurately/
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When he opened the floor to questions, Trump responded to them in a sarcastic, rambling, not entirely coherent manner, frequently adopting the tone of an insult comic, roasting reporters as if at the annual correspondents’ dinner.
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The performance, which prompted an outpouring of disbelief from viewers around the world, was the clearest example yet of Trump treating reporters who fail to flatter him as “the opposition party,” |
Of course I am sure about 40% of the country viewed his presser as a success. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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candy bar
Joined: 03 Dec 2012
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:19 am Post subject: |
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Trump is doing a fine job as President.
The haters like bashing him and making obnoxious remarks about him. The same ones who claimed he would never become president, etc.
I like Trump!  |
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J.Q.A.
Joined: 09 Feb 2017
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| candy bar wrote: |
Trump is doing a fine job as President.
The haters like bashing him and making obnoxious remarks about him. The same ones who claimed he would never become president, etc.
I like Trump! |
...seems about right. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Trump is closely associated with Steve Bannon, who is strongly supported by white supremacists, misogynists and religious bigots. Their presidential campaign directly encouraged violence against political opponents and inspired hatred of Mexicans, Muslims, and mass media news. Hate crimes against Muslims and Jews in the U.S. have reportedly risen since the election, and lies and contradictory statements from the White House have been spewed at an unprecedented rate (while Russians who may know too much continue to suddenly drop dead ...)
And you guy's are saying, "What's not to like?" ...
One positive development is that new National Security Adviser, H.R. McMaster, seems to be a significant upgrade from Russia's choice, Michael Flynn, and may lessen Bannon's influence ... |
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J.Q.A.
Joined: 09 Feb 2017
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
Trump is closely associated with Steve Bannon, who is strongly supported by white supremacists, misogynists and religious bigots. Their presidential campaign directly encouraged violence against political opponents and inspired hatred of Mexicans, Muslims, and mass media news. Hate crimes against Muslims and Jews in the U.S. have reportedly risen since the election, and lies and contradictory statements from the White House have been spewed at an unprecedented rate (while Russians who may know too much continue to suddenly drop dead ...)
And you guy's are saying, "What's not to like?" ...
One positive development is that new National Security Adviser, H.R. McMaster, seems to be a significant upgrade from Russia's choice, Michael Flynn, and may lessen Bannon's influence ... |
yeah...umm....I think that is what many folks were TOLD to believe. But, there were too many others that did not go down that road and saw right through HRC.
That was a nice rehearsal through...almost on cue.
Though...chew on this...but, try NOT to overthink it too much 
https://news.grabien.com/story-brzezinski-our-job-control-exactly-what-people-think |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
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J.Q.A.
Joined: 09 Feb 2017
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Of course he will have to make deals...I would expect him to.
Yes...if he survives, I agree with that.
"Economic Populisim"...care to elaborateon that, in your own words?
" social/cultural liberals/progressive"...not in the Jeffersonian sense, I take it. Meaning...holding dear the values of Republicanism. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Protective tariffs and maintaining strong national institutions - to protect and expand programs like Social Security and Medicare - are examples of economic populism.
Jeffersonian democracy's emphasis on states rights, laissez faire economy and limits on federal government inadequately protect the public and environment from various forms of exploitation. |
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