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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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| I think Seoul is great. Can't wait to go back. It has a nice big feel to it, and there is so much variety. If you don't think so you haven't been there long enough. Let's talk boring: all other cities in Korea. Seriously. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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No lack of fake luxuries
As one of the biggest and best producers of fakes, Koreans churn out replicas that are considered to be of the highest quality.
The counterfeit luxury goods business is comparable in a way to dealing in drugs -- it is highly addictive because of the high profit margin. "The money is so good. This market guarantees high revenues, whereas selling generic clothes cannot predicate any big profits," said a street vendor who sells fake Polo goods in Dongdaemun.
An official at Seoul Main Customs who asked for anonymity went so far as to say, "Why should Korean officials work for foreign companies that make a pile of money? With imitations, consumers have access to designer brands they might not otherwise be able to afford."
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2004/06/03/200406030008.asp |
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Toby
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:09 am Post subject: Re: visited seoul in march and am utterly disappointed |
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| first, i was disappointed that seoul was still so dirty everywhere i went and i stayed in kangnam mostly. i don't know the name of the road but it's the one going south from teheran-ro when you get out of sun-reung(?spelling) subway station, near jin-sun middle school, man, was is littered all over and vomits everywhere. and street vendors were selling things that ought to give one food poisoning right there next to all that crazy traffic. |
man ... Seoul is awesome.  |
I concur. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:36 am Post subject: |
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DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!!
Notice the OP has posted only once on this thread and in deliberately inflamatory terms. |
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indiercj
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
No lack of fake luxuries
As one of the biggest and best producers of fakes, Koreans churn out replicas that are considered to be of the highest quality.
The counterfeit luxury goods business is comparable in a way to dealing in drugs -- it is highly addictive because of the high profit margin. "The money is so good. This market guarantees high revenues, whereas selling generic clothes cannot predicate any big profits," said a street vendor who sells fake Polo goods in Dongdaemun.
An official at Seoul Main Customs who asked for anonymity went so far as to say, "Why should Korean officials work for foreign companies that make a pile of money? With imitations, consumers have access to designer brands they might not otherwise be able to afford."
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2004/06/03/200406030008.asp |
Koreans should better invest more on design and marketing skills that they have been lacking so much, rather than continueing manufacturing those fake products in the dark. I think they already have a very high manufaturing, assembling ability. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
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| Korean clothes are ugly.. sorry, but there is no point beating around the bush (or 'skirting' around the issue) |
boom boom
what all of them? you don't like NIX?
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If you look around you can find some decent Korean labels. I will concede that choice in Korea is limited though. If you go to Lotte department store then you may as well not bother going to the others.(they will all stock the same things.) NIX is a good label. I have bought a few things from their outlets. My favouriteb label is Thursday Island though. There are some really nice bottoms(pants for the Yanks) in there, with a beautiful cut. FRJ isn't bad either at the cheaper end of the market. Overall though, Korea hasn't got a patch on the UK.
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| I find it perplexing that so many are down on Korean fashion when I so rarely see a well-dressed westerner here |
 Too bloody right. This country hardly attracts our best dressers does it? |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| Too bloody right. This country hardly attracts our best dressers does it? |
Indeed! |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Location, location, location.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
No lack of fake luxuries
As one of the biggest and best producers of fakes, Koreans churn out replicas that are considered to be of the highest quality.
The counterfeit luxury goods business is comparable in a way to dealing in drugs -- it is highly addictive because of the high profit margin. "The money is so good. This market guarantees high revenues, whereas selling generic clothes cannot predicate any big profits," said a street vendor who sells fake Polo goods in Dongdaemun.
An official at Seoul Main Customs who asked for anonymity went so far as to say, "Why should Korean officials work for foreign companies that make a pile of money? With imitations, consumers have access to designer brands they might not otherwise be able to afford."
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2004/06/03/200406030008.asp |
Damn right. Why pay inflated prices for goods you can buy cheap with just a change of label. I'd rather not have to wear some big corporation's damn logo as the price for wearing something of reasonable quality: it's just giving them free advertising. Knock offs are fine by me.  |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
DON'T FEED THE TROLL!!!
Notice the OP has posted only once on this thread and in deliberately inflamatory terms. |
Well, it's hardly started a flame war has it? It has only stimulated debate and that can only be good IMHO. It's not exactly the 'All Canadians are dumbas ses" OP's we've seen recently eh?
| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| This country hardly attracts our best dressers does it? |
I've seen better dressed people going into the British Legion in Lewisham on 'Grab a Grannie' night. |
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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:25 pm Post subject: Hooterville.... |
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Yes, my Hooterville has Korean farmers' daughters...and lots of Korean fathers, uncles, brothers, strangers...armed w/pitchforks in case the barbarian gets any carnal ideas....
This place never even had a horse to be called a one-horse town...the North Koreans bypassed this place during the 1950 invasion(they apparently didn't think it was worth it or never heard of it)...I was thrilled about 15 months ago when a "Buy the Way" opened up to finally give "Family Mart" competition....the locals think I'm quite the cosmopolitan sophisticate and I've spent most of my life in Saskatchewan....
Yeeeee...haaaaaaah!!!!!!! |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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actually the OP posted a few months back about where to go in Seoul she got a list of places to check out. To then come back and bitch about how she spent most of her time in Gangnam and didn't like it, well it's pretty poor.
Butterfly- thanks for my new sig! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
I've seen better dressed people going into the British Legion in Lewisham on 'Grab a Grannie' night. |
AAHHH!!! MENTAL IMAGE!!! MENTAL IMAGE!!! That just burnt out my mind's eye!
Next time please post a warning before you write something like that, Mr Butterfly  |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Koreans should better invest more on design and marketing skills that they have been lacking so much, rather than continueing manufacturing those fake products in the dark. I think they already have a very high manufaturing, assembling ability. |
Well actually I think you raise quite an interesting point there, but I disagree with you, yes there is a lot of fake goods, both high and low quality, but I think this has directly led to Korea becoming more innovative in fashion, because the faking has made expensive high street brands a bit passe. Why would you buy a Ralph Lauren shirt in Myeong Dong when you can get a fake one in Itaewon? Why have a real Gucci or Louis Vuitton handbag, when 100 dappy girls have bought fake ones?
What is the solution to that, if you want to remain at the head of fashion? For me, it would be to be more creative in my search for cool garments~ and to buy nice, more rare local brands which are harder to fake. It's not just Korea that is faking also, it's going on everywhere, faking for the dumb masses of market laggers, but those who don't want to join this group buy local, lower production goods. And the design creativity of Koreans, has led, I believe to a renaissance in Korean fashion, certainly if the last two Seoul Collection weeks have been anything to go by. Korean fashion week is one of those acknowledged by international fashion magazines and FTV these days.
I think as a result the future is very rosy for Korean fashion brands, especially with the textile and garment manufacturing capacity the country already has (traditionally only subcontracting for foreign brands) and I believe that faking has contributed towards creating a fast track to that future.
No worries Swiss James, always a compliment. Sorry Urban, I'm feeling a little wooooo~~ today. |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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People often whine on here about korean fashion being too boring, but then when they see koreans dressed unusually they'll call them out for looking gay or weird.
The problem is that stuff that looks good on asians doesn't often look good on whites (or blacks)- so just because you find it hard to find stuff that suits you in the shops doesn't mean korean fashion's crap. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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You know what.....
95% of my wardrobe now consists of Korean clothing and I think it is better than a lot of the casual crap i ever wore in Australia.
The only thing I don't like is the random English on T-shirts but i just don't buy those ones. |
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