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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:51 am    Post subject: A Question of practicality Reply with quote

Hi all,

I'm going to Korea in August and was thinking of buying a digital camera. The problem is that I won't have a computer to download the pictures to and all that fun stuff. Is it possible to use a computer at a PC bang and burn my pictures on a cd?

Also, if I do buy a camera, is it cheaper to buy it here (in the U.S.) or in Korea or even opt to go to Japan and buy one?

Thanks,
AlyAllen
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Sydney Rooster



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: A Question of practicality Reply with quote

Alyallen wrote:
Hi all,

I'm going to Korea in August and was thinking of buying a digital camera. The problem is that I won't have a computer to download the pictures to and all that fun stuff. Is it possible to use a computer at a PC bang and burn my pictures on a cd?

Also, if I do buy a camera, is it cheaper to buy it here (in the U.S.) or in Korea or even opt to go to Japan and buy one?

Thanks,
AlyAllen


Aly, I won't be able to answer all your questions as I am not in Korea atm. However I cannot see why you could not burn your photo's onto a cd at a PC Bang. I am sure the PC's would have cd burner's.. Additionaly if the PC doesn't have the necessary software to view the pictures, I am sure you could install the software which comes with the camera onto the PC. Who would know..

On to the other question as to where to buy the camera. General consensus seems to be that they are cheaper in the US than Korea. Probably though cheaper in Japan.. Well you can discount Japan as an option unless you need to fly there. In your case I don't think you will need to as I believe that you have already secured a job and can get the E-2 visa in the US. The cost of flying to Japan to buy the camera will far outweigh the savings of buying the camera.

So it comes down to Korea v the US.. Best to check out what sort of camera you want to buy now, then do a price check in the States and compare to online prices in Korea.. Actually I will be in Korea in a couple weeks so if you have any camera's in mind just let me know and I can check out the prices in the shops for you as I will be heading out Yongsan way most likely soon after arrival.

The other thing which comes into play is the warranty.. It may be a hassle buying in the US if something goes wrong with the camera in Korea as the warranty may only be valid in the country of purchase. As a result you might need to send it back via post to the Us for repairs. As most warranties are 12 months, it may be more convenient to purchase in Korea.

Anyway, firstly try to determine which camera/s you are interested in purchasing and take it from there.. Smile
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krats1976



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basicly, these days it's going to be about the same. I ordered my Sony in the States and had it sent to me here in Korea, thinking it would be cheaper, but my friend bought the identical camera at Yongsan for about the same price. But seeing as how you're still in the States, if I were you, I'd probably buy one there before you come. If you moniter some of the online stores for a few weeks you'll probably catch a good deal. I would find it to be a lot less hassle too because I'm terrible at bartering and so Yongsan really intimidates me. But, that's just me.

I did brave Yongsan today, though, because I need a bigger Memory Stick for my camera. I got a Memory Stick PRO 256MB for 110,000 won(about $95US) and they're advertised on BestBuy.com for $99.99. Yay for me! (If anyone's seen them cheaper, please don't tell me... it will only make me depressed)

edit: Oh yeah, and you can burn your pics onto CD's at the PC rooms. Or, better yet, make friends with someone who has a CD burner. Very Happy
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barrybrown



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:41 am    Post subject: . Reply with quote

PC Bangs...99% DO NOT HAVE CD BURNERS. To make matters worse if you install the program to run your camera from a pc bang 9 times out of ten it will be a headache. Even if you pick English language options some options get installed in Korean and then you have more of a headache! Once you get here buy a pc!
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if they did have a burner, how big is your memory card going to be? You want to burn a CD for 256MB of pictures? Going with 512MB flash memory might make this worthwhile....I wouldn't recommend storing your files on a PC room's computer...
Just buy a cheap PC. If you don't want the desktop space/size commitment, get a laptop.
Without a computer, you won't be able to look at your pictures...who wants to look at their memories in a smoky, noisy room full of kids playing starcraft? Laughing
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Sydney Rooster



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
Even if they did have a burner, how big is your memory card going to be? You want to burn a CD for 256MB of pictures? Going with 512MB flash memory might make this worthwhile....I wouldn't recommend storing your files on a PC room's computer...
Just buy a cheap PC. If you don't want the desktop space/size commitment, get a laptop.
Without a computer, you won't be able to look at your pictures...who wants to look at their memories in a smoky, noisy room full of kids playing starcraft? Laughing


Demaphobe, a blank CD only costs around 30 cents so whether she stores 256mb of photo's or 512mb of photo's is really neither here nor there, compared to the additional cost of the 512mb card to a 256mb card. Secondly after burning them onto CD, she can delete them from the hard drive of the PC anyway.

I do agree with the second paragraph however, if you are going to be in Korea for any amount of time, buying a cheap PC is the way to go.
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Juggertha



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe i'm just used to scummy PC rooms but I wouldn't be able to trust any near my place with loading pics to it then burning. Hell, a few months back I couldn't even find one with WORD to write something up. Rolling Eyes
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uber1024



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another option would be to get webspace and after you download and (maybe) resize the images ... ftp them to your webspace.
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jj_



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uber1024 wrote:
Another option would be to get webspace and after you download and (maybe) resize the images ... ftp them to your webspace.


Ftp site is much better, it's easier to download pictures on there, so I found.
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jj_



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: A Question of practicality Reply with quote

Alyallen wrote:
Hi all,

I'm going to Korea in August and was thinking of buying a digital camera. The problem is that I won't have a computer to download the pictures to and all that fun stuff. Is it possible to use a computer at a PC bang and burn my pictures on a cd?

Also, if I do buy a camera, is it cheaper to buy it here (in the U.S.) or in Korea or even opt to go to Japan and buy one?

Thanks,
AlyAllen


There would be one problem with downloading your pictures in a PC room, you would have to download your software each time. I use a canon and if another computer does not have the canon software I can't download the pictures. I have never used a PC room, so I can't say for sure how it is.

Here are a few questions I have for you.

How long are you going for?
How many memory cards are you planning on getting?
What resolution would you be using?

You also have to remember that if you by something overseas, it doesn't have the same warranty when you get back to North America.
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wuzza



Joined: 02 May 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody has mentioned just going into a photo store where they will print out the pictures you select for around 30 or 400 won each.

Obviously if you want to keep your photos digital this is not the way to go, but if you just want to have copies of the best ones, then it's cheap, quick and more convenient for some people.

there are also websites www.miodio.co.kr that will print them out 300 Won for an average size print, with free postage. Two drawbacks with that website is that it's all in Korean, and also they don't accept foreigner resident number's so a korean person will have to set up your account.
There are surely other websites that are better than that one, but I ahevn't come across them (haven't looked either) maybe someone else can offer one up
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Sydney Rooster"]
Demaphobe, a blank CD only costs around 30 cents so whether she stores 256mb of photo's or 512mb of photo's is really neither here nor there, compared to the additional cost of the 512mb card to a 256mb card. Secondly after burning them onto CD, she can delete them from the hard drive of the PC anyway.
quote]

Well, I guess you are just different from me, but I don't like having 50 half-full CDs. Sheesh....you can get a DVD burner for 100,000....4.5 GB!

Wasteful and inefficient all of those half-CDs. I wasn't thinking in terms of cost, but hey....keep buying that really cheap media. I have lost enough data and burned enough coasters to stay away from the el-cheapo crappo disks. Also, CDs seem small and portable, until you get a pile fo them...suddenly, storing and moving them is a real pain.

My Sony DVD burner won't even handle them cheap "imation" bulk DVDs....write errors every time.

As far as deleting them, I'm not sure what you mean. I meant storing personal photos on a public computer at a pc room is unthinkable, thus the person would have to burn every upload, and that upload would be dependant on how much flash memory is in the camera...and then delete the photos from the public PC when done.

If one had their own PC, you burn when you have a disk worth of images.

Another solution is a "Ipod-like" device (the name eludes me right now) like my buddy picked up at Yongsan, with ports on it for all formats of memory cards. Holds 30 GB of any file type, connects by USB. Smaller sizes are available of hard disk size if 30 GB is too large, facilitating easier file management and full CDs at upload time.


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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wuzza wrote:
Nobody has mentioned just going into a photo store where they will print out the pictures you select for around 30 or 400 won each.

Obviously if you want to keep your photos digital this is not the way to go, but if you just want to have copies of the best ones, then it's cheap, quick and more convenient for some people.

there are also websites www.miodio.co.kr that will print them out 300 Won for an average size print, with free postage. Two drawbacks with that website is that it's all in Korean, and also they don't accept foreigner resident number's so a korean person will have to set up your account.
There are surely other websites that are better than that one, but I ahevn't come across them (haven't looked either) maybe someone else can offer one up


The problem here is that the pictures come on a disk...you cannot manipulate the digital data before copying.

If you are just a point-and-clicker, then no worries, but if you like to "develop" your photos on the PC, then the studio burn is a bad idea. Also, they use high compression techniques, similar to WinXP picture transfer utility. Acdsee is lower and of course, Photoshop is the best...you lose less digital info that way.

I think people misunderstand digital cameras a bit...they think it's done after the click. Well, just as in the darkroom for celluloid, the digital photos can be (and often need to be) manipulated to a very high degree on the PC....correcting errors, crops, exposures, high-ISO graininess...

Again, the burn at the studio kills any of these ideas. They don't do anything except upload and burn, usually using the native software in WinXP because it's free, fast and easiest for them.

And they use crappy media, which does make a difference in many areas.

It will do in a serious pinch...I have done it in the past, but really, I was disappointed with the overall results.
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jazblanc77



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 5:37 am    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

barrybrown wrote:
PC Bangs...99% DO NOT HAVE CD BURNERS. To make matters worse if you install the program to run your camera from a pc bang 9 times out of ten it will be a headache. Even if you pick English language options some options get installed in Korean and then you have more of a headache! Once you get here buy a pc!


This is exactly the case. In fact, I have never seen a burner in a PC bang as they should actually be called GAME ROOMS. The computers are geared towards running fast for all of those dopes who dream of being pro-gamers who winning the StarCraft World Cup for Korea AGAIN!

In fact, try finding a pc bang that has a working printer. I tried to find a place (away from work), where I could print my resume a couple of years ago and the wasn't one place with a working printer or scanner. If they did have one, there would only be one computer in the entire joint which was occupied by, yes you guessed it, a pro-gaming wannabe, and it would be out of ink.

Maybe you could use your work computer in the mornings before you start classes but don't rely on the computer labs here.
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Alyallen



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the interesting answers about my question. I read another thread in this forum about regular cameras versus digital cameras. After reading it, I think I am leaning towards a regular camera. I'm sure once I'm in Korea and actually have money to spend on such a product, I will use this thread for reference.

Thanks,
AlyAllen
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