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FIRST COME, LAST SERVED... for waygook customers in Korea
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Korea Newfie



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
Why do people automatically assume its because they're foreign?

Manifestation of ingroup-outgroup theory. I.e., it's easy.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea Newfie wrote:
Butterfly wrote:
Why do people automatically assume its because they're foreign?

Manifestation of ingroup-outgroup theory. I.e., it's easy.


Right.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea Newfie wrote,
"Manifestation of ingroup-outgroup theory. I.e., it's easy."

Yes.
Foreigners do not fit neatly into any scheme. They are normally treated graciously as one would a guest, but they may never be able to break into that close, inner circle. For most Koreans, foreigners exist only as stereotypes, and are not always liked. Living in Korea as a foreigner requires patience and fortitude.
http://usembassy.state.gov/seoul/wwwh3550.html
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Juggertha



Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Anyang, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't had it happen in a grocery store, a lines a line and i'd hold my own.

When it has happened to me is in retaurants. When it does i simply stand up, say something and walk out. If I don't like the service, i leave. They are stuck with my order and my money goes elseware (that being said it has only happened twice in years)
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:09 pm    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

I was at Sandpresso once, I started to talk and she gave me the 'wait a second' thing. Some goof walked in, yelled his order, and got service. She reacted, and then the 2 ladies started looking at each other and talking to each other. They look at me, saw I was pissed oiff, and I walked out.

They chased me out onto the street, and I yelled for them to learn some manners before I would ever come back.

It irks me. There is a lineup for a reason.
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Real Reality

FIRST COME, LAST SERVED... for waygook customers in Korea

How are foreigners treated in Korea?
FIRST COME, LAST SERVED

This happens in stores, restaurants, clinics, and other places.
And, some places never provide service for foreigners.


I haven't had this happen. At all. Ever.

I have had ajuma come up and plop their groceries down in front of mine, and I push their groceries aside and move forward. It helps that I am taller than any ajuma, and older than a lot of them.

I had to endure a dinner companion, out with a group of us last week, who bitched all during the meal about bad service and her general bad treatment in Korea. The constant griping is worse than bad service ever could be.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In four years only once. I simply picked his items up and dropped them on the counter behind mine. "I was here first! Wait your turn!"


Rude people are everywhere, not just Korea.
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wylde



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Rude people are everywhere, not just Korea.


in my 30 years in australia i have never experienced or heard of anything that rude happening at a cash register..

rude people ARE everywhere, but, it seems there are a whole lot in korea..
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One should also consider that maybe the person behind the counter just never served a whitey before and maybe was hesitant and scared.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
One should also consider that maybe the person behind the counter just never served a whitey before and maybe was hesitant and scared.


Yes, that too. They often think they are going to have to speak English and panic.
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
One should also consider that maybe the person behind the counter just never served a whitey before and maybe was hesitant and scared.


Yes, that too. They always think they are going to have to speak English and panic.


I think there's a lot to that, especially for the cashiers who are in junior high or high school still. They seem to think, "If I ignore him, he'll just go away and I won't have to embarass myself by trying to speak English in front of my co-workers. Let me help this friendly familiar Korean face in front of me instead."

By the way, GWoW has a pretty funny rant on the Chinese Off-Topic Board that touches a bit on customer service for foreigners. He really is a strange one.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the nervous twitch I have scares people away when I am in a queue, but it has never happened to me.
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
wylde

in my 30 years in australia i have never experienced or heard of anything that rude happening at a cash register..

rude people ARE everywhere, but, it seems there are a whole lot in korea..


You're over thirty? You look so young!

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wylde



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks. but thats what all the gals say Cool

about all this bs with being frightened to speak english.. ha

what do the koreans do who don't speak english at all? nothing. they speak korean. we still get by. it happens the same amount in those places too.

this is only about the loudest person getting served first and the quietest being served last.

it is our own fault. if we are forward like the koreans, we get served. if we politely wait back until the way is clear or to give other people enough space, we lose out.

get your cash out and get in their face..

it took me ages to get used to this, it really felt terrible but, i started being served faster and to tell the truth... i hardly worry bout it at all these days..

do as they do and you are fine.

edit - this just doesn't happen to foreigners, it happens to koreans too btw..
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noelinkorea



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: Shinchon, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:47 am    Post subject: huh? Reply with quote

What is this jacamanyo that Peppermint mentions?
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