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Paji eh Wong
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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 Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:18 am Post subject: legal second job on an E2 |
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This is potentially a dumb question, but...
I'm teaching at a kiddy hagwon on an E2, and I want to find a legal part time job teaching adults. My boss says that; if I have an E2 from a hagwon, I can't get a work visa for another hagwon.
I think she's full of shit.
To save some time, here's what EFL law has to say...
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9. a) Employees often have to work at two or more locations, but each situation must be distinguished. In the case of an EPIK employee, he/she may work at two or more different government school locations per week. The schools come within the umbrella of the Ministry of Education, so the employee can work at multiple locations. Similarly, some private schools/hagwons have their employee travel to a branch of that same hagwon, and work there. In these two aforementioned cases, the Employer must advise the Immigration of the fact within 15 days.
b) The next category is where the Employer has the Employee subcontracted to a different employer. In this case where the foreigner (teacher) who is holding an E-2 status (Teaching Foreign Languages) and must work for another hagwon, the following documents are required by Immigration; passport - foreign registration card - application form - contract paper - letters from both employers - fee of 60,000 Won.
c) The final category is when an English teacher holding an E-2 status (Teaching Foreign Languages) desires to add
a working place (for example, at a different place of a different employer), the following documents are required.
- Passport - Foreign registration card - Application form - Contract paper - Release letter - Reference - Fee : 60,000 |
I'd be in catagory C).
My question is: is there anyone out there that has a legal full time and a legal part time teaching positions at two seperate hagwons on an E2? |
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snufalufagus
Joined: 10 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| One issue here is whether or not you've signed a contract that states whether or not you are allowed to seek employment outside your working contract. You can in fact sign away the ability to seek secondary employment. Otherwise, negating this condition, yes, you need to get permission from Immigration and they don't blindly give it, but you can get it. |
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posco's trumpet
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: Beneath the Underdog
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:19 am Post subject: |
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I was offered a unique part-time opportunity. I wasn't looking for work when it was offered, and I asked my regular employer for permission.
Since any reasonable person could see the value of the job (teaching advanced business communications at one of the SKY universities), and since my boss is a pleasant and reasonable man, I got it. I now teach full-time at one university and part-time at another.
I had to file paperwork with immigration (papers from both employers), but everything's on the up-and-up, and I get an extra 1.6 million for 26 hours per month. 
I think the fact that I didn't go looking for it may have made a difference. (e.g. we have a valuable person on staff, so let's try to satisfy him and the prestigious university which wants him).
BTW, immigration was angelic about the whole thing--I'm fairly certain the names of the universities helped in this regard. |
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snufalufagus
Joined: 10 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| I'm unfamiliar with "SKY" universities. What is that ? |
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posco's trumpet
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: Beneath the Underdog
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| Seoul National University, Yonsei University, Korea University (#1, 2, 3). |
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snufalufagus
Joined: 10 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Aha, I hate abbreviations and rarely use them in daily life. Which is funny since I work at Seoul National University (Medical Center). You'd think the abbrevation would have been familiar  |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| It can be done, but your principal employer must agree to it and give you a release letter for immigration, stating that they allow you to enter into a second job. |
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Paji eh Wong
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the input.
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| One issue here is whether or not you've signed a contract that states whether or not you are allowed to seek employment outside your working contract. You can in fact sign away the ability to seek secondary employment. Otherwise, negating this condition, yes, you need to get permission from Immigration and they don't blindly give it, but you can get it. |
Good point. A number of my coworkers have jobs doing TV and recording work, so I just assumed that I would be contractually able to. So I checked my contract and it only says that I can be fired for accepting funds from other sources without the institutes consent.
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I was offered a unique part-time opportunity. I wasn't looking for work when it was offered, and I asked my regular employer for permission.
Since any reasonable person could see the value of the job (teaching advanced business communications at one of the SKY universities), and since my boss is a pleasant and reasonable man, I got it. I now teach full-time at one university and part-time at another.
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Congradulations. I, however, am not dealing with rational people, I'm dealing with hagwon owners.
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| It can be done, but your principal employer must agree to it and give you a release letter for immigration, stating that they allow you to enter into a second job. |
I realize I am completely at my employer's mercy in this little venture. I'm looking ofr some direct evidence that will refute my bosses claim so I can force her into giving me a straight answer.
So I'll ask again. Is there anyone out there that is working legally for 2 unrelated hagwons? |
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