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[snufalufagus]

Actually I'll stay on any topic that I desire. Second, you have NO clue what experience I have with ESL in Korea so don't suggest that I've no clue wht I'm talking about. Thanks for your input on mine, but I am more than capable of talking intelligently.

[ryleeys]

Well, Grotto, I understand where you're coming from.

I'm expected to call just 2 students every day. So it's only an extra 15 minutes. Therefore it's spread out and can't be considered extra time. This is my first contract here and I wish I had known better than to leave so many open ended aspects of it, such as:

[Grotto]

Ryleeys sorry to hear about your situation.

I had a similar phrase in my contract but I deleted it before I printed it off and signed it. My suggestion to you would be to stand up and say that the demands of cleaning your classroom and the hogwan are not 'appropriate'

as for your director saying I have to look at your contract carry a copy around with you....I have turned several of the poorly worded sections back upon them. In one my contract states that I will be paid my basic base contract for working 30 or less hours a week. I was 5 minutes late once, car hit me, and they docked me an hour of overtime pay....I raised hell and they werent going to give me the money. I know its only 15,000 but I wasnt about to let them get away with this. I pulled out my contract showed them that particular heading and they backed down and gave me the cash.

We are not only here as English teachers we are also here to teach something of our Western culture and as such we should teach the hogwan owners how to treat people respectfully and responsably.


Snuf

[snufalufagus]

I love reading this dribble, it makes me laugh.

And for the record, I find AT LEAST four (4) spelling errors in your last message, as well as lack of proper completion of contractions, lack of proper capitalization, and improper ellipses.

Don't raise issues you yourself are unable to master.

I've not actually stated I've not been involved in the ESL community, I said I don't have a job and haven't had a job in said community. Check it again. You're missing so many other options of possible involvement on my part.

And it's not "health care professionals" that have the highest rate of suicide, it's White Male Physicians. Health care professionals denotes all professions in the health care system and of all races and sexes.

Again, thanks for your input.

It takes surprising levels of intelligence to make the comment you do about the issue of suicide.

Once again, enjoy.

[Grotto]

snuf or Stupid Nitwit Uneducated Fornicater

[snufalufagus]

What's really sad is the attention you pay to my posts, first you threaten, then spend such valuable time ... YAWN

I'm happy to provide my credentials

And by the way, it's possible to be associated with the ESL community without having a paid job, i.e., being employed directly in the field. So many other ways.

Either way, I'm through with your useless words - you blew the whole thing out of proportion when I made myself clear it was the scenario I discussed - not YOU, but hey, you must be THAT special, eh ?! I'm finished with you, and don't bother PM'ing me either, I no longer care.

Put more attention into your life rather than stalking me on the internet, so unfortunate. It's so amazing that you continue to bad-mouth and make everything a personal attack, name calling and accusations. Only those with no real life can do such things - hide behind that computer with that false bravado all you want.

Seeya

[Real Reality]

ryleeys wrote,
"And yes, many will argue that I am in Korea and should do as Koreans do."

What do Koreans do?

Hospital Strike Locking Horns and Killing Patients
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004061441838

Taxi and Metal Union Workers to Go on Strike
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200406/200406140039.html

[Grotto]

Finally

Yes it is 'possible' to be affiliated with the ESL community and not be an instructor but you are not affiliated with the ESL community in any way shape or form. You have made that clear through your many stupid, innane, venomous attacks on all the people that post on Daves

You strike me a little peice of crap that likes to crap on others to make his own pitiful existance seem better.

As for threats Name one An invitation is not a threat You poor, pitiful, ignorant fool. Life must be tough for you.

Stalk
stalk
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English bestealcian; akin to Old English stelan to steal -- more at STEAL
intransitive senses
1 : to pursue quarry or prey stealthily
2 : to walk stiffly or haughtily
transitive senses
1 : to pursue by stalking
2 : to go through (an area) in search of prey or quarry <stalk the woods for deer>

Lets see this is my post that you keep returning to. You must be a glutton for punishment as you continue to come back for your verbal slap upside the head.

As for personal attacks Lets see Hmmm Who started this whole thing

As for hiding behind my computer my invitation to meet in public and discuss this further still stands.

It amazes me that your lack of ability to rationally put your thought (only one thought though most people have thoughts) onto paper or in this case computer screen makes you such a sad little insignificant peice of manure.

I can only hope that you meant what you said that I will never hear from you again....I can only hope that this means that no one on Daves will hear from you again.

Let it be known that where ever Snuf posts, i'll be there defending the ESl community against his ignorant tirades

Oh no does this mean he will have to change his identification again?
Oh well he should be easy to track....just look for the most ignorant posts and you will find him.

[calaislilies]

I understand the desire to "put up" with extra work that was not specified before the end of a contract. The bonus monthly salary is an incentive, especially with just over a month to go on a contract. However, when you agree to certain behaviors, these are then passed on to the new teachers, or impact your coworkers in a negative way. Please work together with your coworkers.

I had a coworker who was looking for another job, and was promised a release letter. He agreed to numerous changes in our contracts, and I was expected to go along with them. Thus, I lost sick pay, had to do written comments on report cards monthly (they were suppossed to be shared with the Korean teachers; one month foreign teacher, one month Korean teacher), teach extra classes, and do excessive telephone interviews. This left me with more work in the end, while he had his release letter and a cushy job somewhere else.

Another word about telephone interviews. Make sure you know the guidelines for them, and be firm about what you are willing to accept. A lot of my problem was that students were not available when I had a scheduled time with them. For 6 months, I tried once or twice, then gave up.

Later, I was pressured to call continuously until the student was reached. When I handed in my reports, I was told "this one wasn't finished, call them again." Hey! I just made 50 telephone calls, and I called him 2 times. Make sure to record each time you call the students, and tell the boss, "I will call them 2 times (or 3 times) then they have to reschedule."

Also, give your bosses a schedule of when you can make phone calls. More than once I was given a schedule for an 8 o'clock phone interview, when my last class was at 7pm, and I had no other calls to make.

[Gwangjuboy]