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crazylemongirl · Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...

I have a deaf student who is highly intelligent. Unfourtantly I only know a little new zealand sign language which is different from american sign language. I would really love to give him some resources to learn some signs. Anyone got any good sites or books that I could send him to.

peppermint · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:21 pm Post subject:

This link should help

http://www.masterstech-home.com/ASLDict.html

And because it's a language in flux, try googling fingerspelling too.

Confused Canadian · Joined: 21 Jan 2003

Here's another link...similar to peppermint's, but perhaps a bit more indepth.

http://commtechlab.msu.edu/sites/aslweb/browser.htm

Here's another one. This is actually for parents to introduce sign language to their babies/toddlers, but as it covers many of the "basics", might be a good introduction for your student, depending on his age.

http://www.signwithme.com/main_signs.asp
(This link doesn't always work the first time you try it. Keep trying...it should open eventually Wink

)

Hope these help,

Confused Canadian

Ryst Helmut · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: american sign language stuff

tomato · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:35 am Post subject:

Hello, Crazy Lemon Girl!

I don't have any deaf students, but I teach sign language anyway. I've learned it mostly by practicing it with the kids. Both you and they can get plenty of good practice through simple patterns. ("Sarah is next to Judy. Judy is next to Matthew. . .")

I recommend sign language practice for all foreign language students and teachers. The proponents of TPR (Total Physical Response) claim that learning a language while moving is beneficial, but they are at a loss to explain how to learn anything but verbs. ("I am walking! I am jumping! I am running!") Since all parts of speech can be expressed through sign language, I recommend sign language over TPR.

My favorite sign language dictionary is Comprehensive Signed English Dictionary.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0913580813/qid=1084934939/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-1658994-0003058?v=glance&s=books

Note that this is Signed English, not American Sign Language. There are two competing sign languages in the United States, and it looks like Signed English is winning out. Signed English is being taught to deaf kids in the United States but was never taught to the older deaf people. That's a generation gap if ever there was one!

Hello, Ryst!

You were right the second time. The deaf people in Korea communicate through KSL. I study KSL myself. Every Sunday, I go to a local orphanage and give the kids a lesson on the subject. Every Thursday, I go to the local association for the deaf to make sure that what I am teaching the kids is right.

The best KSL dictionary seems to be �ѱ��ȭ: Korean Sign Language, published by �ѱ��ȸ--in other words, Korean Association for the Deaf. The book has both a Korean index and an English index.

Sorry, this time, I can't give you a picture.

Which sign language should Crazy Lemon Girl use?
If she uses Korean Sign Language, it will be easier because the student will already be familiar with the sign language. However, English grammar might be difficult to reconcile with Korean Sign Language.
If she uses American Sign Language or Signed English, it could come in handy if the student ever meets a deaf American.

I'm not Crazy Lemon Girl's boss, so I'll let her decide.

Falstaff · Joined: 14 Jan 2004 Location: Ansan

reedtea · Joined: 06 Feb 2003

Teaching ASL????

I REALLY want a job teaching that! I used to have 2 friends in HS that were deaf and am practically fluent in this 'language'.

If ANYONE knows who I need to contact to apply for a position teaching this, I would appreciate the heads up...

C

OiGirl · Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun

OiGirl · Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun

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Mashimaro · Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: location, location

fascinating topic. and who'd have known there was so much politics to do with different systems! I'd love to learn sign language some day, I hope I can get my butt into gear and do it!

OiGirl · Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun

gajackson1 · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:24 am Post subject:

Dear OiGirl,

First, I want to say thanks for responding to Christina's (reedtea's) question about teaching ASL in Korea. You let her know about the exact situation, and what would be required to do so. She's been interested in this for quite some time, but whenever the subject has come up here, a 'proper' answer has not been given. Smile

However, the part about

tomato · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:44 am Post subject:

Hello, Oigirl!

The address for the publisher, �ѱ� �� ȸ, is:

�� Ǳ� ��õ 11�� 1659-2 û�� 2��

The phone number is 02/871-4857~9.
The fax number is 02/871-4523~4.

They have a Website:

http://www.kdeaf.or.kr/

but I can't understand a word.

I hope this helps.

gajackson1 · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:59 pm Post subject:

Re-reading the thread, it occurs to me that I am mostly familiar with users of Signed English instead of ASL.

Why is there now a push towards ASL, and where is it coming from? It seems that for general communication purposes, it would be more inclusive to go with Signed English, as that will match written/typed communication more closely.

My Master's was partially based in communications, so this is of a passing interest to me. It seems that a ASL push wold make things more exclusive/hedged IRT communications outside the deaf community . . .

Curiously & with Regards,

Glen

(Braille? Did Braille ever go through something like this???)