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Alias



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've confronted this attitude before. "If you don't do privates than you are a sucker." Guess that makes me a sucker. Or a law abiding person who does not wish to get deported back to Canada with no job.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alias wrote,
"I've confronted this attitude before. 'If you don't do privates than you are a sucker.' Guess that makes me a sucker. Or a law abiding person who does not wish to get deported back to Canada with no job."

I refuse to do illegal teaching, too. I hope people follow the laws. Of course, sometimes it seems nearly impossible to follow the laws and be fair to yourself and your family. Does your employer follow the laws?

For universities, numerous substantiated reports relating to:
a) unfair dismissals
b) failure to pay wages
c) accommodation problems
d) contracts with penalty clauses that breach the Labor Standards Act
e) Universities offering 10 month contracts designed to defeat issues going to vacation time and severance pay.
http://efl-law.com/universities.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Universities offering 10 month contracts designed to defeat issues going to vacation time and severance pay.


What you mean like universities back home who hire assistant profs on a one semester basis for years at a time so they don't have to offer them tenure? Rolling Eyes
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What you mean like universities back home who hire assistant profs on a one semester basis for years at a time so they don't have to offer them tenure?

Why the rolled eyes Homer? An english foreigner teaching in the language department of a Korean university can never get tenure.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True kiwi.

They can never get tenure.
That is too bad.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it is right to call people who don't do private work suckers (remember, teaching is not the only private work here) but I wonder how they manage on the hakwon money, I don't think I could, I got a mortgage to pay. At the same time I resent people getting all sanctimonious about me and my private work, breaking the law etc. We're worth a lot of money as good and qualified teachers, and if you can find a boss who fairly reflects the good and hard work you do (fat chance), and you don't need to do private work then lucky you, but I'm taking my slice of the ESL pie. I've seen too many practically destitute TESL/TEFL teachers at home and abroad to make me follow this industry's no-union, no-contract, beat-you-down rules. Screw that.
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