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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:17 am    Post subject: Not enough RAM! Reply with quote

I�m trying to download Arobat Reader.. but keep getting the "Not enough RAM!" message. Tried deleting old programs and trying again, but just not working.

Any suggestions? I really need Acrobat Reader..
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how much RAM do you have?
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try closing down any apps you may have running in the background first.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy more RAM....cheap and easy to install. Acrobat is a hog, but it's a good indication that your system is on the edge of not having enough anyways.
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posco's trumpet



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: Beneath the Underdog

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
Buy more RAM....cheap and easy to install. Acrobat is a hog, but it's a good indication that your system is on the edge of not having enough anyways.


I agree that there's no reason not to buy more RAM, but mightn't he also tweak the virtual memory/cache? (I vaguely remember reading "Out of Memory" Error Messages with Large Amounts of RAM Installed)
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The system still needs RAM to function properly, or we could theoretically buy 32MB and just use a massive paging file. The OSs try to keep everything in RAM, but when everything doesn't fit, the OSs swap the least recently used memory pages to the hard disk, storing them in the paging file.

Theoretically, the more RAM one has, the smaller their Paging File can be, but the reverse is not so true. Windows XP needs 128MB just to run (they say 64MB can do it, but just try it....it is all but useable), and really doesn't come into it's own until the system has 256MB. That is just for Windows...why would it need so much if it could just use the paging file?

Paging files are a second choice, and not always a good option for storing data and certain read/write operations...this of course, depends on what you do with your computer and how patient you are! Wink

Yes, he could increase the paging file size...this may help, but it's not really an efficient solution. Really, RAM is so cheap, especially if you don't need super-fast stuff....if you only need PC2100~PC3200, it's super-cheap.

The link you provided points to Win95,98 and ME. The NT kernel-based systems work a bit differently in regard to memory management.
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the saint



Joined: 09 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deleting files will not help you with RAM. It is common to presume that hard drive space and memory are similar in this way. While you could consider your hard drive space as the amount of food you can store in your stomach, RAM equates to the ability your body has to digest this.

The more RAM, the faster your computer will be able to process the info that programs running need to function. RAM is your muscle power and, as DEmo said, Acrobat needs a lot of muscle to run.
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Gollum



Joined: 04 Sep 2003
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What OS are you on? If it's pre-XP, you can download a program called Rambooster from www.downloads.com which automatically cleans out your ram when levels get low.

You running Kazaa? Some programs will also run "dirty" and slowly ebb away at your ram until you start havin problems like you stated.

I've used Rambooster for years.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you need a proggie like rambooster, or one I used some time ago called "memturbo", then it's very simple. You need more RAM.

Kazaa isn't so "dirty" on it's own...it's often a combination of software that makes the RAM get eaten up.

I use Overnet a lot, and while the program itself isn't so bad (about 50MB of memory usage after 10-12 hours) it's Zonealarm that goes into hperdrive. It is upwards of 70 MB in itself...but when not using Overnet, it stays well under 10.

Do the Ctrl+Alt+Del and see what's eating the RAM. Do it at boot and after extended operation.

However, if you are having troubles simply viewing .pdf files, you need more memory.
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