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prosodic



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vee



Joined: 27 Mar 2004
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 9:56 am Post subject: Interested in teaching need info

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Hi! I'm new to the site and am interested in teaching there. I have an AA degree and have noticed that most schools look for a BA. I've been reading some of your topics and know that there are schools out there that will take me, but I need your help. I keep seeing Visa runs mentioned, so I'm sure there's a way. Any school names/info would help me out a great deal. I'm interested in leaving immediately if need be. THANKS


I looked at Vee's past posts and found this gem. There's a good reason why they haven't sent you on your visa run. They can't. Your E-2 isn't going to get approved with an Associates degree.

When you posted your question back in March, people tried to tell you nicely that you should consider applying to schools in Thailand, Vietnam, or Cambodia, where an AA would be enough to work legally. However, you didn't listen and signed up with the first school that was shady enough to take you. I'm sorry, but I can't say that I feel much sympathy for you. You should have listened when people told you not to go to Korea.

My advice: hop on the first plane out of the country and don't return. If you're going to stay in Korea, keep as low of a profile as possible and hide if you see anybody who looks like a government official.
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calaislilies



Joined: 26 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vee,

Americans can go to immigration and get a 30 day extension on their passport. Tell them you are travelling around or something. You can do this 2 times, (up to 90 days) then you have to leave the country.

Someone mentioned a week at immigration for the blue paper. I am currently waiting on my blue paper (I'm in the US now) and it is taking from 14 to 21 days to process, according to my new employer. I am at the end of week 2, still waiting for my blue paper to come through.

Don't know what to say about the AA degree. You need a BA to get a teaching visa in South Korea, Vee.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

calaislilies wrote:

Someone mentioned a week at immigration for the blue paper. I am currently waiting on my blue paper (I'm in the US now) and it is taking from 14 to 21 days to process, according to my new employer. I am at the end of week 2, still waiting for my blue paper to come through.



I stand corrected. Laughing

Six months ago, it was only taking a week. Immigration does keep changing things, though.

I still stand by my previous statement that it doesn't take longer than 30 days to process, though, unless someone else can prove otherwise. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oneiros wrote:
calaislilies wrote:

Someone mentioned a week at immigration for the blue paper. I am currently waiting on my blue paper (I'm in the US now) and it is taking from 14 to 21 days to process, according to my new employer. I am at the end of week 2, still waiting for my blue paper to come through.



I stand corrected. Laughing

Six months ago, it was only taking a week. Immigration does keep changing things, though.

I still stand by my previous statement that it doesn't take longer than 30 days to process, though, unless someone else can prove otherwise. Laughing Laughing


Actually, you are right. And Calaislilies is also right.

The visa process, if you are overseas, takes about 3 weeks. The actual processing of the visa issuance letter, takes about a week.

Overseas, you have the contract emailed to you, you print, sign, and courier it to the school, along with your degree and photocopy of passport. DHL gets it here in about 3-4 business days. Then, after the school takes your documents to Immigration, it usually takes, on average, 3-4 business days for them to process and provide the school with the visa issuance letter.

Then the school couriers the visa letter to the teacher, taking another 3-4 business days. Then, the teacher takes the visa letter and their passport to the nearest Korean embassy or consulate to get their passport stamped. Some embassies/consulates have a 24 hour turnaround. I've seen some take 3 days. Call it 2 for average. That's also assuming that you are going to the nearest embassy/consulate in person vs. having to courier the visa letter and passport to them, have it processed, and sent back. If you do it this way, tack on another 2-3 days. All told, the visa process, while overseas, takes around 3 weeks. The actual process of Immigration processing your documents to produce the visa issuance letter only takes around 3-4 days.

Calaislilies is awaiting an overseas process.
Oneiros was quoting the wait time for the visa process while in-country, which applies to the OP's situation.

So, you're both right, but just reflecting 2 different situations.

As to the OP, if you have your documents being processed by Immigration as we speak, then I don't know what the big fuss is over. You'll get your visa letter shortly and you do a visa run to Japan. This is common to a ton of teachers over here.

The only variable that I see is the AA degree issue. Assuming that it's only a 2 year degree and you didn't buy anything fake before coming over, this may hold you back from getting the visa letter. Maybe. Degrees are often given the rubber-stamp once-over, so it depends on how thorough the Immigration officer is, who inspects your documents.

Also, when does your 30 days expire on your current visa? This will be important as you'll want to avoid having visa overstay fines when you leave the country.
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calaislilies



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to be a pain, but I was told current turnover time in the Mokdong immigration office in Seoul is currently 14 to 21 days. My blue paper was taken there over 2 weeks ago, and it hasn't been completed as of yet. (My new employer is American, so I don't think he's being lazy or having difficulty communicating.)

I just wanted to let the OP know that it is possible that there is a delay in Seoul at this time, according to my situation.
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prosodic



Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think the OP should quit and it isn't just because he's working illegally with questionable credentials for getting an E2 visa. The important thing here, in my opinion, is that the hagwon seems like it's poorly managed. I mean, who leaves a newbie, fresh off the plane, in charge for two months?
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