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F-2 visa and F-2-1: difference?
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syclick



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:38 am    Post subject: F-2 visa and F-2-1: difference? Reply with quote

Ok, wifey and I are putting in our F-2-1 papers next week. Now that I'm actually close to getting this thing, I'm wondering what the actual difference between an F-2 visa and an F-2-1 visa is. However, I can't find any actual information on the immigration website. They only offer the following:

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Residence (F-2)

This visa category is available to individuals
(including spouse and children) who have
continuously lived with their permanent address
in the Republic of Korea. This visa also includes
the following category :
(a) Children underage of a person who has F-2
status ;
(b) A woman who, as a wife of a Korean national,
has never acquired a Korean nationality before ;
(c) A woman who, as a wife of a person having
F-2 status, has continuously stayed in Korea ; and
(d) Individuals who have especially contributed
to the Republic of Korea or who have valid
reasons to continuously stay there.
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kangnamdragon



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never heard of an F-2-1. Do you have a reference to it? Where did you see it?
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syclick



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.eslcafe.com//forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=22653
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kangnamdragon wrote:
I have never heard of an F-2-1. Do you have a reference to it? Where did you see it?


Is this sarcasm? Very Happy

http://www.eslcafe.com//forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=22653

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kangnamdragon



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Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting. I don't think there is an F-2-1. Maybe it was a misprint. PM Ryst.
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prosodic



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

phaedrus wrote:
kangnamdragon wrote:
I have never heard of an F-2-1. Do you have a reference to it? Where did you see it?


Is this sarcasm? Very Happy

http://www.eslcafe.com//forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=22653

Consolidating Author = ?????????


kangnamdragon is right, there is no such thing as an F-2-1 visa. But it is amusing that he's the one who put together the FAQ.

There are four F-class visas:
F1 (let's you live in Korea for up to twelve months, but is not a work visa)
F2 (let's you live and work in Korea and can be renewed without leaving Korea)
F3 (for children or the spouse of a person with an E2 visa)
F4 (let's you live and work in Korea--must be renewed after two years and then every three years after that)

I think the original posters on those links made a mistake.
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Holyjoe



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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kangnamdragon is right, there is no such thing as an F-2-1 visa. But it is amusing that he's the one who put together the FAQ.


I'm looking at my alien card which is printed with F-2-1 right there on the front...
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prosodic



Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holyjoe wrote:
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kangnamdragon is right, there is no such thing as an F-2-1 visa. But it is amusing that he's the one who put together the FAQ.


I'm looking at my alien card which is printed with F-2-1 right there on the front...


I defer to empirical evidence.
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bourquetheman



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:27 am    Post subject: Me too... Reply with quote

I too have an F2-1 Visa, finally went through all the paperwork to get it back in March. I've actually been married for 3 years but had heard that I couldn't get it AND have a full time job at the same time which is a load of crap! There is a LOT of paperwork to bring to immigration (we made one trip just to find out what it is we needed to bring) so I suggest you do the same. As far as the website goes I believe they still haven't updated it so that's the reason you don't see it listed

As for the actual differences I forget but what I can tell you is that I have a F2-1 and on top of that I have an E2 to work at my school. Make no mistake if you want to work, you still have to have the E2 added to you F2-1. The good thing is that as mentioned before you don't have to leave the country to have this renewed (I believe it's good for something like 5 years) and if (theoretically) your boss was trying to screw you around by cancelling your E2 you wouldn't be forced to leave the country with 15 days as some bosses do. This also goes for getting caught doing privates, sure you'd still have to pay the fine and undoubtedly be blacklisted but you wouldn't be forced to leave the country. Hope this helps..............
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jaykimf



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ARC also says F-2-1. Mine is good for 3 years this time, previously it was one year at a time for two years. Does anybody's card actually say just F-2? If so, what is the difference? Anyway, I've worked 2 years without an additional E-2 visa. They have always told me that having 2 visas is not allowed.
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lush72



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: I am Penalty Kick!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prosodic wrote:

kangnamdragon is right, there is no such thing as an F-2-1 visa. But it is amusing that he's the one who put together the FAQ.


Funny, I just renewed my F2-1 three weeks ago!


I love it that wingnuts who dont know jackshit come on these forums and spout bs like they work at immigration. Here is a hint- if you dont have the visa in question- dont comment on its existance- you are not qualified to do so and it messes with the signal to noise ratio here.
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lush72



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: I am Penalty Kick!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaykimf wrote:
My ARC also says F-2-1. Mine is good for 3 years this time, previously it was one year at a time for two years. Does anybody's card actually say just F-2? If so, what is the difference? Anyway, I've worked 2 years without an additional E-2 visa. They have always told me that having 2 visas is not allowed.


Wrong wrong wrong.

2 visas are necessarry to work here under the F2-1- I have an F2-1 and an E7 visa - it is completely illegal to work on the F2-1 without another visa attached. For englishee teachers that visa is the E2.
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PatrickSiheung



Joined: 21 May 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too have an F2-1. I believe F2 and F2-1 are used interchangebly. That or the F2-1 used to be called F2 and they haven't changed the documentation.

I also have an E7. Lush is right, it's illegal to work with just an F2-1. You must get another working visa. Your F2-1 is your major visa while your working visa is your minor.

You can even have more. Soon I will also have an E2 visa.
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard (I have no idea at all) that the F-2-1 is for men that marry Korean women, and the F-2 for women that marry Korean men.

My docs all say F-2-1, but the 1 is in pen, while the F-2 is an actual stamp.

The E-2 must complement the F-2-1 in some way, not as a status of sojourn, but as permission to engage in activities not covered by the status of sojourn. Why? Because a person from one of the non-English countries can marry a Korean, but they can't teach English legally.
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kangnamdragon



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I learned something today. There is and F2-1 and an F2. There are the same thing for different people.
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