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[TheUrbanMyth]

[quote="ladyandthetramp"]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[quote="ladyandthetramp]
Yes, hakwons owners are giving in to their customers prejudices. I already said that in an earlier post. I disagree with the attitude of those parents, just as I disagree with racists in my own country, and rather than passively accept them, I will not work in an establishment that I know helps to continue promotting racism.[/quote]


So as long as you don't KNOW that it continues to promote racism, then that is okay? In keeping with your ideals then, you should only work at places that have blacks, or hispanics working there. Because even though they may not advertise "whites only" that is what most hakwon owers, parents and students expect. So you wouldn't know unless you asked. And even then the owner could misunderstand the question or simply lie. So by working at any place that doesn't have a minority you could be working at an establishment that promotes racism and not even know it.

[thegadfly]

Yes, you can change the way you dress but you can't change your face...but the thing is, if someone is PAYING for a particular look, why shouldn't he or she be able to get it? I mean, if I want to spend my money on a green shirt, I don't care how nice a blue one is, I want one that is green...perhaps I take a lower quality green shirt, or one that is overpriced for what I get -- perhaps I get rooked on the deal, but I get the green shirt I set out to purchase -- stupid on my part, certainly, but aren't folks allowed to spend their own money as stupidly as they wish?

I go to a health club 3 or 4 days a week to work off stress...and the funny thing is, all of the instructors there, both male and female, have KILLER bodies! They are absolutely toned and chiselled...and the thing is, I am pretty sure they already were that way when they were hired...and another thing is, I think if the trainers at the health club were morbidly obese folks, I prolly would have picked another health club...I have a certain image of what kind of people should work in a health club, and if my narrow little perceptions were "expanded" by "right-thinking" folks, I would honestly just take my business elsewhere.

Again, I am just being honest about stuff that some people would do but would try to hide...personally, I would hire the best applicant I could find, and I would base my judgment of "best" on the interview...resumes can (and seemingly often are) padded, or faked outright. Even degrees are suspect, but what one says and how one reacts can be a bit more telling...at least, I had a better-than-average track record in spotting teaching talent for my school a few years back. THAT school required an MA and 2 years teaching experience or else a BA and 4 years teaching experience in order to apply...and we got folks with less than that sending in resumes...to which I politely responded that they did not meet our current application requirements. Was that wrong of the school? I mean, those requirements were set in place in order to present a certain image for the school...and the boss was paying significantly better than average at the time....

Supermodels make way more money than I do...and they are chosen based on their appearance. There are many great teaching jobs available in Korea, but a small percentage of those jobs are not actually TEACHING jobs, but are something else masquerading as teaching...places that are going for a certain "look" are probably not places where education is valued, so if one is a serious teacher, one is not upset to be out of the running for a position at such a place.

Personally, I would never work or apply at a school that valued appearance over substance, but I think that such places have just as much right to exist and do business as any other. People can spend their own money as stupidly as they like -- so long as it is indeed their own money they are unwisely spending...my three cents....

[Alyallen]

I think there is a big difference between having a preference but being willing to give people the benefit of the doubt and all out exclusion.

Just because I'm Black, I could be denied a job even though I might be highly qualified because of something I can't change? It's one thing to not meet some type of criteria that is up to the person to change (clothing, type of degree, etc) as oppose to something that is permanent and unchangable (except for Michael Jackson )

But this all makes no difference in the long run. Forcing someone to hire someone they don't want isn't a good thing. It would create a really uncomfortable situation, wouldn't it? That would certainly affect productivity in a less than positive way.

In any event, my skin color has nothing to do with my ability to do much of anything except tan and even I can pull that off