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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you're a guy, right schwa?
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
And you're a guy, right schwa?


Yep.
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wylde



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
You just made my point! Guys need "physical" ways of disciplining students. Women find other ways.

I WILL concede that I've never taught in a highschool, so MAYBE your method is valid IN THAT SETTING. (Or, maybe NOT! Wink )


i play with my students all day.. whether it be soccer, lunch, go stop, i take some shopping with me, others to a noribang, other to macdonalds and a bunch of other shit too...

i need to be command their respect after being their 'friend' outside of class.. i seem to be a major part of these kids lives and when we get back in class some of them forget that i am a teacher and not only their friend..

let me put it clearly... i play with them whenever i can.. some of them think it will continue through class.. the best way i have found to get them to pay attention is to threaten them with (or give them) serious punishment...

if you can't understand this, it suggests that you don't spend any time outside of class with your students...

life would be easier if i just did lessons.. but, given the fact that i seriously consider english lessons go futher than just a class, i'm prepared to spend the extra time and take the required measures to made sure classes are of value
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, darling. I spend more time out of class with my students than any other teacher here (drinking, lunch, even parties in my apartment!). But even if I drink with my students the night before class, they know that IN class, I'm the teacher. They don't have problems with that. It's the "mom look" that does it for me.

I have over 150 numbers in my phone...80% of them are students/former students!

It MAY be a maturity thing....
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ajuma the worst physical abuse I've seen of my students have been at the hands of the women teachers, which is not surprising considering that 90% of the teachers at my school are women. A kid getting hit around the head with a wooden stick is not ok. Twisting cheeks for 5 minutes is not cool either.

If you used the some of those same methods against non students then it's called abuse and I don't think that it such behavior should be reclassified as discpline merely because it's in a classroom.

Again I reiterate I don't let kids get away with bad behavior, and their are limits that I enforce in my classroom clearly. If you get kicked out of class your going to be writing lines, and most of the kids would rather swallow razor blades then have to give up their lunch time or after school time on the floor writing 'I will not disrupt my english class' 50 times.

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i need to be command their respect after being their 'friend' outside of class.. i seem to be a major part of these kids lives and when we get back in class some of them forget that i am a teacher and not only their friend..


My students aren't my friends. Do I take an interest in their lives? Of course. Have I been known to shout them an ice cream on a hot day if I'm out about in my city. Yes (but only if they've talked to me nicely in english). But I really don't view them as my friends and I'm really careful to maintain a distance between my students and my personal life. So that those lines aren't blurred.
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wylde



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is the difference..

i do not condem any teaching method..


mine is to have them relax and treat me my like a person that doesn't speak korean and the only way they can communicate with me is through english.

generally, this happens outside of class.. funny thing that


i love my students
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl, I can understand the difference between keeping your distance from middle/high school students and uni students. Freshman have a problem with boundries (especially those who've never had a foreign teacher before), but (and I think it comes with maturity) this is also a part of the learning process. I've made some GREAT friends among my junior and senior students (and a stray freshman or sophomore!). My life in Korea would be poorer without them.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wylde, why can't you foster the same style you have OUT of the classroom IN the classroom? Do you resort to hitting/humiliating your students OUTSIDE of the classroom?
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wylde



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they thinking i am playing with them.. you can't have your cake and eat it too
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ajuma



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So...your classroom style is "authoritarian" and your out of classroom style is "pal"?
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wylde



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they ARE my friends.. i love them to death.. when it is that god forsaken time to get them into class and somebody doesn't respect the situation.. i make them Laughing
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok...I'm going to go at this from a different perspective.

How many times a week do you have to "make" them?
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylde wrote:
they ARE my friends.. i love them to death.. when it is that god forsaken time to get them into class and somebody doesn't respect the situation.. i make them Laughing


And damn it, those kids who picked on you in high school are never going to pick on you ever again!
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ajuma



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Gord! Laughing
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wylde



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

800 students... maybe 20 times a week

i respected the teachers that were hard on me.. the teachers that weren't, i walked all over.. in korea students play the game the same way the only difference it that it is worse here.

Thanks Gord! Laughing
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