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raiden
Joined: 08 May 2004
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:01 pm Post subject: Should I stay or should I go? |
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I have been contemplating going to Korea for several months now. I know someone in Seoul who loves it, and he encouraged me and my boyfriend to give Korea a shot. I was always a bit nervous about the whole thing, but shrugged off my feelings until one day I panicked and put the idea of Korea on hold. My boyfriend had similar feelings, and put the job search on hold as well. Now I have to decide whether to go or not. Truth be told, I don�t have any real desire to go to Korea, or to teach. I would go for the money (student loans are killing me) and because I keep getting told about how much it would enrich my life, enhance confidence etc. My alternative is to stay here and work retail or something similarly unfulfilling and barely make ends meet.
The reasons I am scared to go to Korea are: I am introverted and scared of public speaking (teaching will either knock out this phobia or destroy me ), I am chubby and don�t have a real thick skin (I anticipate being called a pig), and I�m also nervous about being screwed by a shady Hagwon owner.
My question is should I go even though I am scared and don�t really want to? Will the experience of Korea be worth the risk?
By the way, I hope that nobody takes offense by me saying that I don�t want to go, or that I�d be going mostly for the money. I have a lot of respect for you guys, and if I go, I will put a lot of effort into trying to become a good teacher. I just feel the need to be honest because I�m really stuck as to what I should do. People around me are totally gung ho for Korea and think it would be a great experience for me, but they also haven�t read the horror stories I have. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks, Raiden. |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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From everything you say I think you'd last a few months at best- sorry, but
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I don't have any real desire to go to Korea, or to teach. I would go for the money.. |
that sets off warning bells in my head. |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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You know yourself better than anyone. If you really, really don't want to go then don't.
Keep in mind though, people tend to talk more about bad experiences than good ones- that's why you hear so many. Don't let us scare you.
You're probably a bit tougher than you think, and don't forget, you'll have your boyfriend and a friend already here, so that will help a lot.
Either way. . . |
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ThisCharmingMan

Joined: 11 Jan 2004
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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peppermint wrote: |
...you'll have your boyfriend and a friend already here, so that will help a lot. |
Hopefully your boyfriend won't turn into a dikky "Charisma Man" and leave you.
That's what I'm worried for you. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Give it a go. It's a blast. |
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sparkx
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: thekimchipot.com
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Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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I am chubby and don뭪 have a real thick skin (I anticipate being called a pig) |
For some reason i suddenly have a real hankering for some Dwegi Gop Degi |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 2:53 am Post subject: |
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raiden wrote: |
Should I stay or should I go? |
I always like the clash as well
BTW... don't come, your motivations are all wrong
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:02 am Post subject: Re: Should I stay or should I go? |
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raiden wrote: |
I have been contemplating going to Korea for several months now. I know someone in Seoul who loves it, and he encouraged me and my boyfriend to give Korea a shot. I was always a bit nervous about the whole thing, but shrugged off my feelings until one day I panicked and put the idea of Korea on hold. My boyfriend had similar feelings, and put the job search on hold as well. Now I have to decide whether to go or not. Truth be told, I don't have any real desire to go to Korea, or to teach. I would go for the money (student loans are killing me) and because I keep getting told about how much it would enrich my life, enhance confidence etc. My alternative is to stay here and work retail or something similarly unfulfilling and barely make ends meet.
The reasons I am scared to go to Korea are: I am introverted and scared of public speaking (teaching will either knock out this phobia or destroy me ), I am chubby and don't have a real thick skin (I anticipate being called a pig), and I'm also nervous about being screwed by a shady Hagwon owner.
My question is should I go even though I am scared and don't really want to? Will the experience of Korea be worth the risk?
By the way, I hope that nobody takes offense by me saying that I don't want to go, or that I'll be going mostly for the money. I have a lot of respect for you guys, and if I go, I will put a lot of effort into trying to become a good teacher. I just feel the need to be honest because I'm really stuck as to what I should do. People around me are totally gung ho for Korea and think it would be a great experience for me, but they also haven't read the horror stories I have. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks, Raiden. |
Sorry, but I think the best thing is not to come. You have outlined the exact type of person who Korea would probably eat alive. Really, you need to either stay home and work, or get over all of the hang-ups (which would deter you from many experiences, not just Korea) and then take the plunge.
I hate to be negative....reallly I do, but you sound fragile and self-defeating about this. Give it a good think and if you can overcome, you will see that this board is only a sliver of a sliver of Korea.
Also be aware that most people don't post about the good things that happen here everyday, just the annoying stuff. I think it's human nature or something.  |
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Zenpickle
Joined: 06 Jan 2004 Location: Anyang -- Bisan
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:36 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Demophobe. As culture shock goes, this is one of the ultimate destinations for it if you've not done your homework. And as a result you'll isolate/insulate yourself within the foreign community and add to the negative circle jerk.
One guy who worked at my school spent his entire off time in Korea playing computer games. Never left his apartment until it was time for him to return home.
As an aside, I met an even worse case of cultural insulation when I lived in Germany. It was a woman who had lived in Germany for ten years and had no idea what schnitzel was (Germany's national dish).
I am optimistic that there's hope and that you can have a blast here if you study Korean history and culture more before making the decision. A lot of stuff on the board sounds worse than it really is. I work at a school that has a bad reputation, stereotypical money-grubbing bosses, inept planning, and frequent violations of labor laws, but it's far from being the worst job I've ever had. I love it here. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Should I stay or should I go? |
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Hello, Raiden!
This are my thoughts on the subject:
Truth be told, I don't have any real desire to go to Korea.
Have you been to other cultures? And were you able to adjust?
For me, I didn't expecially care where I was--at home or abroad.
I just came here because this is where I got a job.
But once I got here, I loved it.
I don't have any real desire . . . to teach.
I'm prone to count this as a point against you, but let us remember the cliche "don't knock it until you've tried it."
Is it because you are "introverted and scared of public speaking"? For some reason, there are many teachers who are afraid of public speaking, but who don't regard classroom teaching as public speaking.
I will put a lot of effort into trying to become a good teacher.
You might enjoy it, then. You get out of a teaching job what you put into it.
My alternative is to stay here and work retail or something similarly unfulfilling and barely make ends meet.
If you see teaching as "fulfilling" compared with uncreative jobs, you might enjoy it more than you expect.
I am chubby and don't have a real thick skin (I anticipate being called a pig)
Those are two of my traits, too. Children pat me on the tummy and tell me I'm pregnant. (In case you're wondering whether I'm male or female, I'm male.)
That doesn't bother me, though. What bothers me most is adult Koreans treating me like a helpless infant just because I'm a foreigner.
If you weren't chubby, the kids would find something else to tease you about anyway. Notice my moniker and my avatar. That is because my
real name is Thomas, which sounds like "tomato" in Korean. The children call me a tomato because they like for me to chase and tickle them.
I'm also nervous about being screwed by a shady Hagwon owner.
I'm sorry, I can't give you any assurance on this one.
I wish I could give you a definite yes or no.
Here is a short inventory which I've written. I hope it helps you:
http://eslideas.hypermart.net/inventory.html
Don't go by the ratio of negative to positive postings on this forum. It seems that the Korea-lovers are more numerous and Korea-haters are more vociferous. Someone ran a poll asking "Are you happy here?" The yes votes outnumbered the no votes 3 to 1:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=11885&highlight= |
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ajuma

Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Is it at ALL possible for you to fly to Korea and stay with your friend for a couple of weeks? Visit his/her school? See what things are REALLY like here? Maybe even be a "guest teacher"? It may be worth the investment. If you decide you hate it, you'll only be out some cash and some time. It won't be like making a comittment before you're ready. |
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Saxiif

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:13 am Post subject: |
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My alternative is to stay here and work retail or something similarly unfulfilling and barely make ends meet.
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Ugh. That's no alternative, at the very least you'll have free housing here and more disposable income. And more importantly, stranger stories to tell years from now.
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I am introverted and scared of public speaking (teaching will either knock out this phobia or destroy me ), |
Nothing like a good ddongchim to burst that bubble
Children will call you fat to your face. But then I get called a monkey because of my hairy legs, its something you get used to after a while.
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and don뭪 have a real thick skin |
Hmmm, better work on that.
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also nervous about being screwed by a shady Hagwon owner.
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Just mine the Job forum for information, there's a lot of helpful people there (I try to be one of them), there are ways to at least reduce this risk (which I wish I knew myself before coming over here...).
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My question is should I go even though I am scared and don뭪 really want to? Will the experience of Korea be worth the risk? |
Yes.
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I will put a lot of effort into trying to become a good teacher. |
That's all you need. The competition (ie us) isn't too impressive generally  |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Hell, before landing in the ROK I didn't have any real inclination to travel abroad; I have thin skin; was a borderline agrophobe (isn't that what people who are afraid of situations in public are referred to?); and I hated flying. My 20-hour plus flight here was a nightmare. And you know what? It was all worth it. Don't listen to anyone telling you to stay put. You'll surprise yourself. I know I did. I'm now the president of a fortune 500 company.
(that last was a complete lie, but I meant the rest. Carpe diem)
Sparkles*_* |
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SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:05 am Post subject: |
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ajuma wrote: |
Is it at ALL possible for you to fly to Korea and stay with your friend for a couple of weeks? Visit his/her school? See what things are REALLY like here? Maybe even be a "guest teacher"? |
This is great advice. |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:36 am Post subject: |
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SuperFly wrote: |
ajuma wrote: |
Is it at ALL possible for you to fly to Korea and stay with your friend for a couple of weeks? Visit his/her school? See what things are REALLY like here? Maybe even be a "guest teacher"? |
This is great advice. |
Yep...the OP is struggling with student loan payments and then they should shell out the ~ $1000 to come here for a couple of weeks, decide if they like it, then fly back out a few weeks later
I know that sometimes you have to spend money to make money, but this seems a bit....well.....silly.
It's only a year and if you freak out, you can go home. The ticket will be paid and nothing gained, nothing lost.
Heck, ask your friend to make a video of a few classes or something.....do a webcast if they have a computer with a webcam in the classroom.
Or the OP could just trust their friend instead of anonymous strangers giving advice. |
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