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lazymaisey



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Signing a Contract, then breaking it.... Reply with quote

My boyfriend and I have been offered a contract at a school is Busan but it seems like they want us to sign quite soon. We kind of want to explore more options to see if better opportunities might come up. What are the repercussions of signing a contract and then breaking it before you are actually supposed to go? Confused

We read on the FAQ forum about this situation but there weren't many responses and we'd like to have more up to date information. It would be sooo much appreciated! Thanks! Smile
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What are the repercussions of signing a contract and then breaking it before you are actually supposed to go?

AFAIK nothing as long as you don't go and get a work visa.


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waterbaby



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you'll only have a legal prob breaking a contract if the school for which you've signed a contract for has already put your papers in for processing at Immigration to get your 'blue' paper.

Have you signed a contract yet? Have they started processing your E2 visa application at Immigration?

Don't be hurried into signing anything you're not sure about.

Cheers,
wb
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lazymaisey



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saxiif wrote:
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What are the repercussions of signing a contract and then breaking it before you are actually supposed to go?

AFAIK knowing as long as you don't go and get a work visa.


Saxiif, what does AFAIK mean?
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waterbaby



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Far As I Know
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lazymaisey



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waterbaby wrote:
I think you'll only have a legal prob breaking a contract if the school for which you've signed a contract for has already put your papers in for processing at Immigration to get your 'blue' paper.

Have you signed a contract yet? Have they started processing your E2 visa application at Immigration?

Don't be hurried into signing anything you're not sure about.

Cheers,
wb


Thanks for the info waterbaby. What you're saying does make sense. We haven't signed a contract yet, we're just worried that we may get caught up in it all and not make the best decision. We're going to try and get as much info as we can before we sign, and are absolutely sure this school is for us.
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waterbaby



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want more input, post a copy of your contract here and let the masses pick it to pieces Smile
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dull artist



Joined: 20 Jun 2004
Location: Osan

PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I came to Korea I turned down a really good job at Yahoo! for the sole reason that I thought that I was bound to my signed contract. Now that I'm here they tell me that I could have stayed in California no problem! The contract doesn't really matter much until they start processing your blue paper. Although that was just a personal experience, I'm pretty sure it holds with most jobs here.
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lazymaisey



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="waterbaby"]I think you'll only have a legal prob breaking a contract if the school for which you've signed a contract for has already put your papers in for processing at Immigration to get your 'blue' paper.

So, what legal problems could arise if our papers were being processed at Immigration, and we backed out of the contract??
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lazymaisey



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, how long after a contract is signed does it take for them to send our stuff to immigration and get our 'blue' papers?
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waterbaby



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lazymaisey wrote:
waterbaby wrote:
I think you'll only have a legal prob breaking a contract if the school for which you've signed a contract for has already put your papers in for processing at Immigration to get your 'blue' paper.


So, what legal problems could arise if our papers were being processed at Immigration, and we backed out of the contract??


If you have signed a contract and then get another better offer from someone else & your paperwork has already been submitted by your original employer to Immigration, you'll require a Letter of Release from your original employer in order for Immigration to issue you an E2 visa to another employer... and chances are pretty slim of getting the LoR if the original employer has already said no to other potential employees & paid his/her recruiter etc... and that means you either have to work for the original employer or come back a year later.

So basically, it will be very hard for you get an E2 visa for another employer if Immigration has already started to process your visa application.

How long does it take for this to happen? Varies. Depends on your employer and when they get in their car and go down to their local immigration office. Some do it immediately, some wait a while & expect you to work illegally.
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ghostshadow



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wondering, why would you sign a contract then break it? I know that we all want the best jobs here with the best conditions and pay and so on and so forth but hey the jobs here are a lot like the jobs back in the states some are good some are not. You get some goods and bads just see what is most important.

A contract is still a contract, it's not like most people in USA, Canada, NZ, Aust, UK or any other places really thinks ahead about breaking a contract before they even sign it. So why should it be different for employment here?

Well I can understand someone breaking the contract after they were working at a school. One of my friend worked at this little hagwon and the owners did not tell the truth about few things until she got there, she did her best for a month or so then left because they where not honest with her to start with.

As far as the law goes you will not be able to work at another school unless you get a release letter or have to wait a year before coming to Korea. The worse case will be if you are black listed by the Korean immigration office, then you really will have a hard time getting a job in Korea.
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A contract is still a contract

Laughing I wish someone would tell wongjangnims this Sad
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ghostshadow



Joined: 27 Apr 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saxiif wrote:
Quote:
A contract is still a contract

Laughing I wish someone would tell wongjangnims this Sad


Why are you stuck at a small hagwon where the wongjangnim is King?
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ghostshadow wrote:
Saxiif wrote:
Quote:
A contract is still a contract

Laughing I wish someone would tell wongjangnims this Sad


Why are you stuck at a small hagwon where the wongjangnim is King?

Were not are.
I was a stupid newb. Sad
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