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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:00 am    Post subject: 60,000-100,000 won per hour. Reply with quote

Part-time tutors are being offered 60,000-100,000 won per hour, making those jobs very appealing. Last summer vacation alone, Jung tutored students for one month and made 15 million won.
Kim (22), an Ivy League student, teamed up with three of his fellow colleagues and rented a 60-pyong officetel in Gangnam in order to tutor 10 students everyday for 14 hours. He made approximately 100 million won in two months.

Noh (24) is tutoring three prospective students willing to study abroad at Yuksam Dong, Gangnam. He says, "I wish to earn as much as possible during my summer vacation to pay part of my approximately 50 million won annual tuition and miscellaneous expenses in order to lighten the financial burden bestowed upon my parents."
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=040000&biid=2004080497078

How much do you make each hour? Just think about it: You are a native English speaker with a degree and cannot earn as much as a tutor. Is it so easy and convenient for you to travel to and work in Korea?

Well, here may be an answer for you.
Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
Overall living conditions, including education, housing, medical care, transportation, immigration, and access to the Internet are pointed to as inconveniences. Not only inconveniences caused by different systems and customs in Korea, but also special discriminating practices, such as the practice of submitting two years of monthly rent in advance like a deposit, which is required of foreigners just because they are foreigners, are ubiquitous. "Even though Korea has achieved some degree of globalization in going abroad, it has still a long way to go for globalization in embracing foreigners inward," said foreigners residing in Korea. An official in the International Cooperation Division of Seoul City admitted, "The same complaints regarding visas, transportation, education, and environment are raised every year without being solved, due to the lack of cooperation from government agencies involved and their passive attitudes."
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448


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prosodic



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We can get those rates too if we have the connections. I haven't done any private tutoring for several years. The last time I did it was because the group of students paid me 500,000 won/month for 2 hours /week. That comes to 62,500 won/hour. This was back in 1998.

I know that if I chose to, I could make enquiries with my network of friends, associates, and former students to find a large number of students willing to pay 70-90,000 won her hour. 100,000 won would probably be doable, but I wouldn't feel good about charging that much unless I knew the family was really stinking rich.
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And, you can receive a one-way pass out of Korea (Ah, deportation is a perk for foreigners.). You can also be asked to contribute to the government's "Prevent Illegal Work Campaign" (aka, fine for illegal teaching).
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prosodic



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

donga article wrote:
However, such tutoring, according to officials at the Ministry of Education and Human Resources Development, and especially ��officetel tutoring,�� is illegal. Even though college students are not required to declare their tutoring incomes, outrageously high tutoring rates are illegal and the Ministry of Education can either fine or shut down such operations. Some also point out the fact that ex-post-facto management of students studying abroad should be required.


The article says it's illegal for the Koreans doing it as well.
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do Koreans fear deportation from Korea? Are Koreans more ignorant of the system than foreigners?
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prosodic



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article says that most of these Korean tutors are currently attending school in the United States. Would a conviction for violating Korean law endanger their U.S. student visas? I don't know for sure, but I'm willing to bet it would. Can somebody with more freetime research this please?

If it would mean risking revocation of their U.S. student visas, then they're running similar risks.
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inkoreaforgood



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prosodic wrote:
The article says that most of these Korean tutors are currently attending school in the United States. Would a conviction for violating Korean law endanger their U.S. student visas? I don't know for sure, but I'm willing to bet it would. Can somebody with more freetime research this please?

If it would mean risking revocation of their U.S. student visas, then they're running similar risks.


I'm guessing that a criminal charge in Korea would have little effect on their U.S. visa, but it may affect their Korean passport(loss thereof).

From what I've heard, 60-100,000won an hour isn't even close to high. It just shows that Korea has lots of rich and stupid people, who'll do anything to get ahead.

RR, we are on VISAS here. It's the nature of visas to be restrictive. If you haven't realized, the English business in Korea is very competitive. Why? There is a lot of money to be made. Who would the Korean gov't like to see that money go to? Hmm, Koreans or Foreigners? Hey, even back in Canada, esl teachers are never going to get rich. We here teaching English in Korea are -financially- way better off.
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my students has a Korean Math tutor who went to Yonsei and graduated with a Math Degree. He is currently making about 7 million won a month of off his privates, based on what she pays him, and how many other students he says he has.

He makes like 80,000 to 100,000 an hour.
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prosodic



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inkoreaforgood wrote:
I'm guessing that a criminal charge in Korea would have little effect on their U.S. visa, but it may affect their Korean passport(loss thereof).


No passport=no visa, right?
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ladyandthetramp



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 60,000-100,000 won per hour. Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:

Well, here may be an answer for you.
Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
Overall living conditions, including education, housing, medical care, transportation, immigration, and access to the Internet are pointed to as inconveniences. Not only inconveniences caused by different systems and customs in Korea, but also special discriminating practices, such as the practice of submitting two years of monthly rent in advance like a deposit, which is required of foreigners just because they are foreigners, are ubiquitous. "Even though Korea has achieved some degree of globalization in going abroad, it has still a long way to go for globalization in embracing foreigners inward," said foreigners residing in Korea. An official in the International Cooperation Division of Seoul City admitted, "The same complaints regarding visas, transportation, education, and environment are raised every year without being solved, due to the lack of cooperation from government agencies involved and their passive attitudes."
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448


Exactly how many times are you going to post this article? Get over it!
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inkoreaforgood



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prosodic wrote:
inkoreaforgood wrote:
I'm guessing that a criminal charge in Korea would have little effect on their U.S. visa, but it may affect their Korean passport(loss thereof).


No passport=no visa, right?


That's implied, right?
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prosodic



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inkoreaforgood wrote:
prosodic wrote:
inkoreaforgood wrote:
I'm guessing that a criminal charge in Korea would have little effect on their U.S. visa, but it may affect their Korean passport(loss thereof).


No passport=no visa, right?


That's implied, right?


yes.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Koreans want to learn English from people that bought their degrees in America, so be it.
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Arthur Fonzerelli



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't those tutors bilingual? Most ESL Teachers from the west aren't bilingual.

Also, aren't these tutors in some of the best universities in the US? Getting admitted into a top US schools shows you are smart enough or wise enough on how to score highly on the college entrance exams. Most ESL teachers here aren't Ivy Leaguers..
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jajdude



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn,

Please refrain from these envy evoking posts!

So and so makes so much and lives in a castle whereas blow and blow lives in a dumpster and has to steal to live.

I think anyone making over 5 m a month is working hard and may be well qualified too. Hell over 3 m a month is pretty good.
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