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yuria · Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Location: seoul

I was wondering, if it states in your contract that you get 10 days vacation, are the days the school is off included in the 10 days or is it separate? I was recently told that it is included by my school director. In the contract, it doesn't specify this part. It only says that I can get 10 vacation days separate from all professional days.

peppermint · Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject:

if it's a hagwon- chances are it's when the school is off. They close for a week in summer and a week in winter usually, and that way they don't have to find a replacement. As long as they're not actually referring to public holidays being included it's fine.

waterbaby · Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie

And as long as they're not including weekends also.

just because · Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964

Yeah,
The 10 days are usually 5 in summer and 5 in winter.

At my current hagwon though it is 3 in summer, 3 in winter and 4 of my own choosing which works out Ok as i can take a holiday when it is a little quiter.

ulsanchris · Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: take a wild guess

some hogwons try to claim that Sat and Sun are part of your ten day holiday and give you sat to wed off. I feel that that is a BS and I have it in my contract that I get ten working days off ei: mon thru Fri.
My point of view is that I normally don't work Sat or Sun so they shouldn't be included as part of my ten days of paid vacation.
By not giving you a full ten days they are getting four days of free work from you. I ask for all teachers to stand up against this abuse.

paperbag princess · Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Location: veggie hell

peppermint · Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:52 pm Post subject:

When it comes down to it, there's very little that's actually illegal where hagwons are concerned.What I meant was that as long as the holidays are separate from public holidays ( or weekends) then the clause is fine, and the OP shouldn't worry about that part of the contract.

Counting Chuseok as holiday time is very shady though- I believe the day before and after are public holidays - not just the actual day of.

A lot of adult hagwons do creative scheduling too. If Thursday is a public holiday, you might get told that Friday counts as a vacation day- so you get a four day weekend. In other words you get your vacation in bits and pieces.

paperbag princess · Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Location: veggie hell

what about doing it over chinese new year? is that just as shady?

just because · Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964

If my holidays were included to be chuseok and sollal(chinese new year) I would walk.

That is illegal as they are national holidays, not optional holidays.

paperbag princess · Joined: 07 Mar 2004 Location: veggie hell

good to know, thanks!

manlyboy · Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 4:31 am Post subject:

I was wondering, if it states in your contract that you get 10 days vacation, are the days the school is off included in the 10 days or is it separate? I was recently told that it is included by my school director. In the contract, it doesn't specify this part. It only says that I can get 10 vacation days separate from all professional days.

I recently finished my third job hunt since I've been in Korea. Expectedly, thanks to the tanking economy and flooded market, the wages are a little lower and the hours are a little longer, which doesn't bother me that much. What did bother me was what hagwons are offering in the way of "vacation" time now. A lot of the contracts were vague on what 10 days vacation really meant. With the overwhelming majority, it meant 10 scattered days off at the managements choosing, and even some of those would coincide with public holidays. Of course, the real chop-shops don't give any vacation at all. If your school's dodging you on what 10 days really means, odds are you're not going to get a real vacation at all.

Son Deureo! · Joined: 30 Apr 2003

ulsanchris · Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: take a wild guess

AT the hogwon I am currently working at I insisted on 10 days of holidays not to include weekends, since I normally don't work them and my boss would be getting 4 days of free work from me. The owner of the hogwon allowed a franchise to take over the management of the hogwon. When I told the president of the franchise that my 10 days of holidays didn't include 10 days of vacation he said that that was absurb. But since its already in my contract I will get my full ten days. What I don't get is that some of the teachers in his original hogwon have been here for years working for him and all of them have just 6 days of vacation during the year. I don't see why they wouldn't try to negotiate more vacation before resigning their contracts.

A lot of contracts will say 10 days of paid vacation per year. So if you your boss is including sat and sun in as part of your 10 days of vacation then he is robbing you of 4 days of extra pay.