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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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This is why I refuse to go to Jeju. I would rather go to Thailand and the price would work out to be just about the same (airfare higher, but hotel and food cheaper).
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Thailand
Air 600.000 (you can actually find it for 480.000)
Hotel say 15.000 a night at 6 nights 90.000
Food say 3 meals a day at 3.000 each x six nights 54.000
Total 744.000
Jeju
Air 175.00
Hotel say 40.000 a night at 6 nights 240.000
Food say 3 meals a day at 5.000 each x six nights 90.000
Total 505.000
I think I was being a little bit kind on the Jeju hotel when comparing the admenities you would get versus Thailand (and perhaps the food too).
Also you have transportation. To get to Ko Samui it was like $24 for the night train with a sleeper, figure about 30.000 each way. Thus removing some fees from lodging. From what I hear about Jeju, taxis are expensive, while in Thailand they are cheap.
Shopping. When in Thailand, Ko Samui to be exact, we found out where the Thais do their shopping (for those going to that island, I can give you directions). 150 Baht each for nice hand made sandals that my wife got. Tee-shirts for 120 Baht each and shorts about the same price. When my wife and I go there, we do not bring anything but socks and underwear in a small backpack. We do all our summer clothes shopping there and buy a piece of luggage to bring everything back. All the potery and knicknacks in the store were also bought there. I also bought a match set of hand made dishes (service for six, rice bowls, two different size plates etc. for dirt cheap. It would have cost at least 25.000 for one of the large plates here in Korea. If I recall the large plates were 150 Baht each).
Food
Going back to food. On Ko Samui there are a million restaurants to fit every budget. There is a "Swiss BBQ" that is all you can eat for about $9.00. That is the high side. Lunch can be bought for 2.000 won.
Unless you only have two or three days, you have to be crazy to go to Jeju Do.
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:34 am Post subject: |
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To the OP,
I'm sorry you had a bad vacation but sounds like you did very little preperation.
I went to Jejudo twice and honestly had an awesome time, not nearly on par with better parts of Thailand(better than Phuket and Pattaya though) because I did a lot of booking and planning beforehand.
I found an awesome hotel for 35 000 a night for two in the high season (maxim Hotel in Shin Jeju) both times, ate some of the best Chinese I've had in Korea, hired a car twice(very little problem with a bit of Korean), saw all the attractions, Udo is something I can't stop talking about, fantastic little island off Jeju.
It was so cheap.
Of course things are going to be a rip off near major domestic attractions, they are in every country, common sense is all that is needed there.
Good holidays just come down to a bit of planning and booking beforehand.
No offence but you go to to the tourist capital of Korea in the high season and just walk off the plane, what else do you expect???? |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Wow.
Problems in the best place in the world, in the best country in the world?
I love when Koreans tell me what a wonderful place it is. Well, yes, maybe if you are Korean. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| Right. It's all relative. It sounds as if it's much more expensive than in my little town. But, it doesn't appear to be worse than Seoul. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:32 am Post subject: |
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| Do any of you working on Cheju dive? If I worked on Cheju I'd buy the equipment and dive on the weekend. Do any of you dive alone, or do you have a dive buddy? I know it's unsafe to dive alone, but do you? Have you seen any interesting sights like wrecks and ruins and such? |
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jack diamond
Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Location: i might as well be on mars.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| pet lover wrote: |
jack diamond~
Oh crap. I did not mean to come off sounding like I knew the entire island and all its wonderfulness. I'm STILL finding out. 
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| i'm looking for nice, air-conditioned, cheap hotels near the beach. do you know any? |
Which beach? Sorry, but I don't know any because I live here. Don't really need accomodations when you can just pop back home for the night. Since you are planning to take your car, don't worry about it. Just drive around and look for minbak signs. Minbaks aren't quite like what I've heard they are like on the mainland--a lot of them are much more like a nice hotel room. The one I stayed in when I visited to check out the hagwon had a nice ocean view and was said to be 70,000 won a night. It was a REALLY nice room. (I got it cheap as it belonged to the family of one of my then future students.) Just remember that the closer you are to one of the attractions listed in a tourist brochure, the more expensive the room will be.
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| i'm driving there in my car and want to take a ferry from pusan. do you think this is wise? |
I'd kill to be here with a car. I definitely say take the car. Then you are not dependent on taxis or buses and as one ex-co-worker used to joke, don't worry if you get lost, it's an island--you can't get TOO lost. Also, even if you are just driving around lost, you will enjoy the scenery.
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| do you know how much it costs to take the ferry from pusan to cheju-do? |
No idea. Don't have a car, so never asked. Somewhere on the pusan web, there is bound to be a page related to ferry stuff.
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| is there good snorkeling on cheju-do? |
I assume that there is as so much equipment is sold all over the place. I wouldn't know exactly as I have a jellyfish phobia and won't set foot in the ocean. I would ask at whatever place you end up getting for the night AND ask someone in whatever restaurant you eat in.
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| where are all the cheap yet good tasting korean food restaurants on cheju-do? |
I actually know only my own dong as I live HERE. I've sort of been waiting for the weather to get cooler before I do a lot of traveling. I've got air-conditioning and don't ever go far from it. Oh, there is this FANTASTIC place (provided you like beef) that my boss took me to a couple of times. I don't remember exactly where it is: I'll ask on Monday. Also, I tend to cook at home so I can spend time with the dogs, birds, hamsters, fish, etc. For restaurants, remember not to eat anywhere near an attraction. The food quality tends to be not as good and the prices are much higher. This is especially true if the attraction is a bit remote and there aren't many choices. Be sure to carry some fruit or snacks with you when you are out exploring so you don't get caught out and have your stomach determine what your wallet does.
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| should we go to hainan island(china) instead of cheju-do? |
I wouldn't know as I haven't been to hainan island and can't compare. All I can say is that I've heard the air in China is not exactly quality and I can never say enough nice things about the air here. That said, I've heard that August is the hottest month in Jeju. If hainan is cooler, you might want to consider it. The heat index is pretty much daily a steamy 110 F. Too bad your anniversary isn't in November or December--it's GORGEOUS here then. This is my first August, and I've gotta say, it's hot.
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| i would truly appreciate any information you or anybody here has to help me. |
Run a search for rhymeswithjeju. Foreigners who live in Jeju post there--usually just when they want to sell or buy something, but you could get a few contacts off that site--people who have been here longer and done more than I have.
Also, here are some of my favorite links:
Jeju Active Tours
Jeju Weather
Jeju Island Information and Tours
Welcome to Cheju Island
Welcome to Bukjeju County
Life In Korea's page on Jeju
A lot of these links have other links.
By the way, in Seogwipo, don't take the submarine tour. My co-worker got to go on a heavy discount (70%) discount and she said that it was only worth it with that discount and that it was no where near worth it to pay the full price. If you take a ferry ride, pay the money and on the larger of the two ferries. The little one is really little. Get on the ferry well before time to leave and stake out your spot. I went last year in October and it was fabulous. I tried to go again this year in June and accidentally ended up on the smaller ferry where they packed people in like sardines and literally shoved and elbowed my way through to get back off because I couldn't take it.
Check out this site for pics of my area: My Album
It will go private soon so that I can post pictures for my family, so check out the pics now. Keep in mind that the vast majority of the photos (as in with the possible exception of one or two) were taken in the immediate area of Seogwipo--there IS a lot more to see in Jeju. |
wow, thanks so much, pet lover! this is truly outstanding, useful information. i used the links you added to practically plan our entire trip. your pictures of the island are awesome. have you done professional shooting? my wife and i took one look at your pics and we were sold! i could hardly believe the sheer expression of joy in her eyes when i said we are going there, baby.
i sincerely hope that one day i have the opportunity to return this kind act to you. time is precious and unredeemable, and you gave me some of yours.
thank you. |
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queencarmie
Joined: 23 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:06 am Post subject: Re: What the ?????? |
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| Canadaman wrote: |
I've lived in Jeju for 8 years now. Taxis are cheap, buses are cheap and 9000won for Bibimbap is just not possible, (perhaps in a large tourist hotel). Furthermore I've never encountered a hotel (minbak, yeogwan) that cost more than 40,000 won during the tourist season. 100,000 won is the going rate for a taxi tour of the island. This information is readily available at any Cheju tourism website.
Jeju people are generally friendly and honest. On more than one occassion I've had old ladies chase me down the street to return the 100 won coin that I left on the store counter. In the markets the locals will go out of their way to cut the prices for the waygooks.
I don't know what the OP is talking about or where he/she went but it is pure nonsense. Come to Jeju, enjoy yourself, the summer here is awesome.
ya your right loser, Im making this up. Go to the Goodmorning Inn to see a hotel for 70,000. I understand about the goig rate for the taxi, that is not what was quoted to me and written down. and Many people were very friendly. Even the woman who refused to give me my change back was smiling. WHy so defensive?? You react like I attacked you personally.
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jack diamond
Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Location: i might as well be on mars.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| The Great Toad wrote: |
Hey Jack --
Hyeopjaw beach is on the NW side it is across from an island and very scenic. Sinyang beach is on the mid-east part it has an insular blob that provides good snorkeling too. The island of Munseom right off the Seogwi Harbor is good for diving but I assume you could also see some stuff just snorkeling - you have to take a boat to it since it is around some ship lanes.
I'm a filthy Stoat myself - I've skin dived many a time right off the Jeju City Board Walk - what��s a little city pollution when your in love with the sea- not to many fish to see though. A buddy also told me Iho Beach has dirty water - but hey I skin dive that anyway and there are a few packs of fish by the rocks - but then I swim way out to the second set of rocks too. |
we leave tomorrow, Great toad, and head right to the beaches you mention in your very helpful post. i dive but my wife doesn't. i'm going to teach her to snorkel so we could do it together.
hey...thank you! |
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jack diamond
Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Location: i might as well be on mars.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| kprrok wrote: |
And Jack, if you have any questions, I can try to help as well. I'm in guJejusi, so I know about this area a bit. Plus I worked in sinJejusi for a while, so I know a bit about there as well. Been most places, but don't ask about accomodations...no clue!
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well kprrok, you've already been an island of help. the information you gave earlier in your post is great. i'm going to use it and hope to save money while having a great time. i'll definitely drop you a line if we head your way and are looking for something we can't find.
i really appreciate the time and trouble you took to post this information. thanks. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| good point about the prices being naturally higher because it is an island, I fully expected things to be more pricey in Jeju than on the mainland, but this was ridiculous. I was more angry about the price of the Galbi which was way higher than what the menu said and the woman refusing to give me my change for the keychain that I bought. |
I believe you read the menu wrong. Calbi restaurants tend to charge one price to begin with, and then a lower fee for each additional serving. Theory being that the higher fee at the start covers the bazillion side-dishes that comes with the meal. So I think you read the extra serving price and not the starting price.
The flip-side, that being 18,000 for a two person sized calbi dinner is very much on the very cheap side of things even for an older restaurant in a non-tourist region. |
I don't think that's it.
Kalbi restaurants, as well as other restaurants that serve raw meat to be cooked at your table, list prices of their meat per unit, which is usually 200 grams. If 200 grams of kalbi is listed at 9000 won, the waitress may have just continued to bring kalbi out until the total was much higher, or there may have been a misunderstanding and she thought that they guests wanted further portions after they'd consumed their original order. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| chiaa wrote: |
This is why I refuse to go to Jeju.
*insert bitching about prices and shopping here* |
Wow, travelling is only about shopping on the cheap and saving your money? I've been doing it wrong all this time, going to see the sights and such... |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought the OP was funny. I don't see why someone would call it "pure nonsense". It was her experience, that's all. Too bad it didn't work out; she just wanted to vent, and doesn't need to be blasted for not knowing all the ins and outs of K-society and its quirkinesses. |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Zyzyfer wrote: |
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This is why I refuse to go to Jeju.
*insert *beep* about prices and shopping here* |
Wow, travelling is only about shopping on the cheap and saving your money? I've been doing it wrong all this time, going to see the sights and such... |
Did I ever say that? Why are you putting words in my mouth? I was merely saying that you get more for your money when you visit Thailand (I didn't have to mention the sites in my post because it is a given that Thailand is better. Perhaps I should have made that a little more clear for the slow folks.). Seriously, why would you want to visit Jeju Do instead of say Thailand or Laos or Vietnam? You are stuck in this country all year long. There really is not much to do in the way of tourism. So no shit head, you have not been doing it wrong.
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| chiaa wrote: |
| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| chiaa wrote: |
This is why I refuse to go to Jeju.
*insert *beep* about prices and shopping here* |
Wow, travelling is only about shopping on the cheap and saving your money? I've been doing it wrong all this time, going to see the sights and such... |
Did I ever say that? Why are you putting words in my mouth? I was merely saying that you get more for your money when you visit Thailand (I didn't have to mention the sites in my post because it is a given that Thailand is better. Perhaps I should have made that a little more clear for the slow folks.). Seriously, why would you want to visit Jeju Do instead of say Thailand or Laos or Vietnam? You are stuck in this country all year long. There really is not much to do in the way of tourism. So no *beep* head, you have not been doing it wrong.
Zyzyfer tell me about some of the famous Jeju sites |
You're awfully feisty for someone who makes a living off the reading predilections of said beepheads, aren't you? I thought you were trying to court us, not turn us away. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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| chiaa wrote: |
| Zyzyfer wrote: |
| chiaa wrote: |
This is why I refuse to go to Jeju.
*insert *beep* about prices and shopping here* |
Wow, travelling is only about shopping on the cheap and saving your money? I've been doing it wrong all this time, going to see the sights and such... |
Did I ever say that? Why are you putting words in my mouth? I was merely saying that you get more for your money when you visit Thailand (I didn't have to mention the sites in my post because it is a given that Thailand is better. Perhaps I should have made that a little more clear for the slow folks.). Seriously, why would you want to visit Jeju Do instead of say Thailand or Laos or Vietnam? You are stuck in this country all year long. There really is not much to do in the way of tourism. So no *beep* head, you have not been doing it wrong.
Zyzyfer tell me about some of the famous Jeju sites |
By saying you refuse to go there, I'm assuming that you haven't been there yet. If you have, the point is pretty much moot, because you've been there and done that; however, it sounds like you're sitting around comparing packages when you haven't actually gone to Jejudo. Meanwhile, it sounds like you make it a regular habit to keep going to the same country every summer, like some sort of ritual. Why don't you go somewhere new? If I went to the same place every year for holidays I'd be uptight, too.
As far as putting words in your mouth, read your post again and show me where you're not comparing the cost or shopping experience of each trip?
I also find it amusing that you'll rampantly advertise your bookstore while getting all fired up and defensive because of a little criticism on here. It's not exactly good business practice...I'm quite anxious to go to the store where the owner calls people *beep*heads. |
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