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how do you learn to live here well???
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you live in Seoul, try YBM's Korean classes. They do a good job, and you will make pretty fast progress. They tend to attract a lot of non-Westerners, too, so it's a good opportunity to meet Japanese, Chinese and others through speaking Korean.

I took classes for three months and loved it until I had a scheduling conflict with my job. Hopefully I can go back next month.

I have to agree, learning Korean makes living here much more worthwhile. I'm by no means fluent yet, but what I have learned has made my life here both easier and more interesting. In addition, it makes me feel like I have more of a reason for being here, I'm learning something everyday, and if I'm lucky, it may open new opportunities for me here later on down the road.

It may not be the answer, but it sure does add to my quality of life.


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philinkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:33 am    Post subject: am doing Reply with quote

yeah mate. im joining YBM in jonggak starting september

thanks
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teachingld2004



Joined: 29 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:02 am    Post subject: Korean classes Reply with quote

When I was living in Seoul I really wanted to learn Korean, so I enrolled in YBM. I attended 2 classes and they were nice enough to refund my money for the rest of the lessons. I joined the beginner class, but they went so fast, I could not catch up. And when I joined everypne except me knew the aphabet and how to read already. I was a complete beginner, knowing NOTHING. They were so nice there, but I just could not do it. Now that I can read and write.taught myself. I can read but slowly, wish there was a place here I could learn, but here isnt.
Anyway, reading Korean is needed so u at least can read the bus maps and the resturant menu!
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean classes Reply with quote

teachingld2004 wrote:
When I was living in Seoul I really wanted to learn Korean, so I enrolled in YBM. I attended 2 classes and they were nice enough to refund my money for the rest of the lessons. I joined the beginner class, but they went so fast, I could not catch up. And when I joined everypne except me knew the aphabet and how to read already. I was a complete beginner, knowing NOTHING. They were so nice there, but I just could not do it. Now that I can read and write.taught myself. I can read but slowly, wish there was a place here I could learn, but here isnt.
Anyway, reading Korean is needed so u at least can read the bus maps and the resturant menu!


Go to CLI, above the New York Bakery in Gangnam. Exit 6 I think. Really nice and friendly and they will move at your speed. 180,000 for three mornings a week. 2 hours a time. More expensive than YBM I think, but just as good and more accommodating.
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Wedded Bliss

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP.

If you don't think yourself as different, then no-one else will and you will find Seoul a really good place to live.

Itaewon is nasty, but it is a good place to meet people. Seoul Pub, Three Alley's behind the Hamilton and to the left, and also Scrooges from what I hear. Friendly staff and customers.
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teachingld2004



Joined: 29 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:49 pm    Post subject: how do you cope... Reply with quote

I live 4 hours from Seoul, and anyway, I work mornings. But how do I cope? I go to the sea all the time, I take long walks, I travel in my area and the surrounding areas, and come to seoul once in awhile. I cope. Mostly I love it here.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stopping fighting everything and everyone you don't agree with.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

manlyboy wrote:
For me, after 11 months I was ready to leave Korea with a somewhat nasty taste in the mouth. Then I met my future wife-to-be. All of a sudden, the kimchi started to taste better, the mountains looked more scenic, the ajummas seemed less gaudy, even the Sunday morning pools of vomit on the street raised a chuckle. Here's to the ladies!


Same here (although I toughed out 2 years before meeting her, and was about to start my 3rd (I'm a glutton for punishment)). But, as much as I like the food, I still can't go a month without getting a mild case of food poisoning or intestinal discomfort Wink.


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Homer
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mashimaro,

I second that.

Phil, the problem seems to lie with your lack of interest for Korea itself. This could explain why you feel this way.

Perhaps moving to a country that holds more interest for you might do the trick?
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peemil



Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Location: Koowoompa

PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh mate... I've just learnt after two years. I have my circle of friends. My girl. My apartment. Bugger culture. I just work here.

I am happy. And although some really get into this country. It's just a pay cheque for me.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say it depends on the job. If you really enjoy what you do (teaching) , then you will likely enjoy Korea. If you don't then you will be looking to find fault with everything Korean. I've always found that when Korea starts to grow a little stale, moving to a new city usually does the trick. You have to learn how to navigate all over again. Then you have to find grocery stores, barbershops, dry cleaners, pizza shops (that's my main vice Laughing ) and so on. I enjoy just walking around and "exploring" the new terrain.

Might it be the case that you need a change of scenery?
Just my two cents.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re; "bugger culture" I once overheard a guy talking about teaching English; "going to a country in Asia to teach English to 'learn about another culture' is a dreamy, goofy thing done by 20 year old women, mostly. You're there to do a job. Employers just sell the 'learn about Asian culture' thing to bring over those gals, since there are more guys out here and not enough female teachers".
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philinkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah just realised how really finding heart in your work is important. i agree with the post 2 above. i think thats a really important thing for everyone to feel self worth. decided to put more effort into some classes etc. what do you reckon?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like an excellent idea.

Best of luck Phil! Very Happy
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is some good advice on this thread.

Isolation is probably the biggest single factor causing problems for the foreigner population. Learning some Korean and finding and making friends (of whatever nationality) will help. Keeping up contacts back home is also good--the internet has been a godsend in that department.

Taking classes or developing an area of interest will also help. People who have hobbies/interests that excite them are always happier people. We seem to have a need for creative outlets.

One of my major problems here is food. I like Korean food, but only a couple of times a week. I've always enjoyed cooking, so I decided to put a lot of effort into improving my cooking skills. I search for good recipes on the internet and try them out. I eat Indian food, Ethiopian food, Greek food, along with dishes from home. It allows me to be creative and to satisfy a craving for diversity, as well as my craving for comfort foods.
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