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FIRE WITH 6 WEEKS TO GO ON CONTRACT. WHAT TO DO!?!

 
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necktie



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 3:41 am    Post subject: FIRE WITH 6 WEEKS TO GO ON CONTRACT. WHAT TO DO!?! Reply with quote

A firend of mine was fired by the whacko hakwan owner a week ago. He had about 6 weeks left on his one year contract as well as his salary cut. What can he do? This is a terrible hakwan, all the Korean teachers have quit in droves. Of course it is all his fault, the hakwan owner said he wasn't a good teacher--this of course more than 10 months into the contract! Info please?!?
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Anda



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 5:36 am    Post subject: Um Reply with quote

Well your friend needs to go straight to immigration and explain what has hppened and ask how much longer he can stay in country. Normally two weeks is allowed provided the time is left on the E2.
The other thing would be for your friend to do a visa run and hand in his alian card on the way out and come back in on a tourist and look for a job in a new area. The chances of getting money from his old boss is slim and takes time and a fair bit of organising so it's better to pretend that you are throwing in the towel and going home and then to change to a different provienc to work after doing a visa run.
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yoda



Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 6:56 am    Post subject: Call the Labor Board Reply with quote

Call the Labor Board

Article 32: The employer must give at least one months notice. However, whether they will actually do anything . . .
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Lost Seoul



Joined: 10 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 11:33 am    Post subject: More legal contacts Reply with quote

If the hagwon owner has given thirty days notice he is entitled to dismiss this teacher and there is little, sadly, that can be done (as it appears in my view that this teacher has been fired in order to avoid paying him severance) .

Article 32 (Advance Notice of Dismissal)
(1) An employer shall give an advance notice to a worker at least thirty days before dismissal(including dismissal for managerial reasons). If the notice is not given thirty days before the dismissal, normal wages for more than thirty days shall be paid to the worker, except in cases, prescribed by the Ordinance of the Ministry of Labor, where it is impossible to continue a business because of natural disaster, calamity, or other unavoidable causes, or where a worker has caused considerable difficulties to a business, or damage to properties on purpose.

However if this grace period has not been given a trip down to your local Ministry of Labor office is a good idea for a list of regional offices go to
http://www.molab.go.kr/English/abou/sub_3_2.jsp

If they are unable/unwilling to help these sources may be able to offer advice

Archdiocese of Seoul Foreign Workers' Labor Counselling Office: Tel: 02-779-2049 Tel: 02-319-9650 Fax: 02-773-2627 3F, Jeo-Dong, 1 Ga 27-2, Jung-Gu, Seoul 100-031 http://www.scalabrini.org/~smc/dirkor.htm Sunday - Friday 1pm - 6pm Seoul Bar

Association Foreign Worker's Law Office: Tel: 02-3476-8080 (extension 5) Near Socho Station (Green line, #2) Exit 7 http://www.seoulbar.or.kr Mondays and Thursdays only

EMMAUS Migrant Worker's Counselling Office 100 Hwaso-Dong, Changan Gu, Suwon City Tel: 031-257-8501 Tel: 031-257-8535 [email protected]

Foreign Worker's Legal Clinic: Tel: 02-508-1745 Fax: 02-565-2839 Monday-Friday 9am-6pm, Saturday 9am-1pm Foreign Workers Council: 02-928-2049 or 02-924-2706

The Yongsan Police Station in Seoul, near Namyong Station (line 1) has an office specifically to assist foreigners with work related matters.

Ministry of Labor: 02-500-5543 or 02-500-5544

Labor Standards Division: 02-503-9742 International Labor Policy Division: 02-504-7338 (Any questions, not enforcement can be handled in English) http://www.molab.go.kr English version: http://www.molab.go.kr/English Ministry of Justice: 02-720-2424

Hanul Professional Law Corp: http://www.korealaw.com/
a law firm in Seoul, Korea and attempts to explain those aspects of Korean laws that are relevant to non-Koreans.

Foreign Immigration Bureau: 02-503-7096 or 02-503-7097 http://www.moj.go.kr English version: http://www.moj.go.kr/mojeng/index.php

International Taxation Division of the Korean Tax Office: 02-720-4793 or 02-720-4222 http://www.nts.go.kr English version: http://www.nts.go.kr/4/E-4-D-!-19990213001_O001.htm Kim Yong Gyung (3971-598) - helpful, friendly, speaks English

Seoul Immigration: 02-650-6226 Residence Control Section: 02-502-5726, 02-503-7101, 02-503-7907 Entry Section: 02-503-7098 Mr. Jung - speaks English

Kangnam Labor Board: 02-598-2765

Telephone Directory Assistance in English: 080-211-0114
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regicide



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: FIRE WITH 6 WEEKS TO GO ON CONTRACT. WHAT TO DO!?! Reply with quote

necktie wrote:
A firend of mine was fired by the whacko hakwan owner a week ago. He had about 6 weeks left on his one year contract as well as his salary cut. What can he do? This is a terrible hakwan, all the Korean teachers have quit in droves. Of course it is all his fault, the hakwan owner said he wasn't a good teacher--this of course more than 10 months into the contract! Info please?!?
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Call the Labor Board

Article 32: The employer must give at least one months notice. However, whether they will actually do anything .
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Five years too late with that one regicide!
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Darkness



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically all the laws state that the hogwon owner must do this, and that. But don't expect to get ANYTHING. Same thing happened to me in my 10th month...F'n scumbags.
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garykasparov



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: FIRE WITH 6 WEEKS TO GO ON CONTRACT. WHAT TO DO!?! Reply with quote

necktie wrote:
A firend of mine was fired by the whacko hakwan owner a week ago. He had about 6 weeks left on his one year contract as well as his salary cut. What can he do? This is a terrible hakwan, all the Korean teachers have quit in droves. Of course it is all his fault, the hakwan owner said he wasn't a good teacher--this of course more than 10 months into the contract! Info please?!?
Shocked


Pocket size recorders are extremely cheap in Korea. Your friend should buy one. He should have a discussion with his boss and record it. For example;

Recorded prior to having the conversation without hagwon owners knowledge

My name is:
My employer's name is:
The school name is:
The school address is:
The school telephone number is:

Conversation questions:


Why was I fired?

Were there written complaints from parents?

Were there written complaints from students?

Were there written complaints from staff?

Why was I fired on date fired on?


-Make several copies of the tape. It sounds like your friend was fired for bogus reasons. If the employer sets himself/herself up for a fall during this conversation, it may be a good idea for your friend to play this to someone at the labor board when he files. It can only help and not hurt.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are the scum bag apologists? Let's hear again how wonderful Koreans can be...

Your friend will get his last salary and airplane ticket? What exactly did your friend get paid after the firing? I would file at the labor board and talk to immigration...and expect a long fight to get anything. It is possible to get a ruling at court and then do a property seizure but you need a smart Korean's help.
You can file a claim at the police station against the owners...could take 3 months and you need a Korean's help. With this ruling from the police it is possible to do a property seizure. (You need to make a statement and have some proof like your contract pay statements (translated in Korean).
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bellum, you're a scumbag whiner.
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bellum99



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just met one..wait and there will be more.
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Ryst Helmut



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: FIRE WITH 6 WEEKS TO GO ON CONTRACT. WHAT TO DO!?! Reply with quote

regicide wrote:
necktie wrote:
A firend of mine was fired by the whacko hakwan owner a week ago. He had about 6 weeks left on his one year contract as well as his salary cut. What can he do? This is a terrible hakwan, all the Korean teachers have quit in droves. Of course it is all his fault, the hakwan owner said he wasn't a good teacher--this of course more than 10 months into the contract! Info please?!?
Shocked


Call the Labor Board

Article 32: The employer must give at least one months notice. However, whether they will actually do anything .


Why was this 5 year old thread resurrected?

Just curious...

I didn't notice the date at first, but when Anda's post was up...woa...


!shoosh,

Ryst
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