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mslaoshi



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: Si-heung

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 9:27 pm    Post subject: Sober in Korea Reply with quote

Sorry for those who have already read this, but I wanted to get responses from as many people as possible.

Is there anyone out there who is sober in Korea? I have been having trouble mixing with my fellow teachers/Koreans because I don't drink. They think it is the weirdest thing...some feel uncomfortable because I am not drinking alcohol. Mad then I feel unwelcome and uncomfortable. Confused

I have been to parties before where I felt comfortable because people were drinking socially/smoking pot socially but you could tell it was not the main reason for the get-together. It is different than just getting together to get "f--ed up" with that being the main goal. The difference is between substantial conversations with alert individuals and drunks who wish to be unconscious after work.
It feels like such a waste to me. Plus, it is boring for me. Rolling Eyes

If there is a group out there that does fun things without needing to get smashed...let me know. In the meantime...I will be wandering around Seoul solo. Rolling Eyes

mslaoshi

I'm sure I'll get a lot of negative responses from this post...sorry if this sounds judgemental but it is just my preference speaking and frustration.
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marista99



Joined: 05 Jun 2004
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't drink and I'm in Korea (I'm Mormon). I don't know where you are, but we can get together sometime if you want Smile I haven't even met any other foreigners here at all yet, let alone foreigners who don't drink, so life's rather boring at the moment.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:45 pm    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

Sober in Korea? I don't like this subject...........

just joking. After summer died down last year, I cut my drinking to a minimum, and only drank socially. One or two beers here and there.

There are many people that live like that, but as to being 100% dry, I think it's quite rare.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to Korea.

I don't drink. I get by. You can too.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 maybe 2 beers in a month... Getting drunk is just not worth it. I have better things to do with my time.
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manlyboy



Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia

PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went for a physical recently and the doctor asked how often I drank. I said only once a week for the last few months but more regularly before that. He asked why I decided to cut back. My answer - "I got married". The doctor looked at the floor pensively and remarked slowly "yep, that'll do it".
I actually get crap from my Korean friends because I won't drink soju. Three pitchers of beer down the hatch just isn't good enough for some people!
O.P, I don't think you're being judgemental. Don't know of any "sober" groups but know plenty of sober people are out there. Seek and ye shall find I reckon.
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mslaoshi



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: Si-heung

PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 10:29 pm    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

It has actually gotten way better. I am starting to find a group of friends within my work place who are not heavy drinkers. Now I know the group to hang with and the group not to. It is hard just coming here for the first time...especially with heavy drinking being an integral part of the culture. I actually have found three Korean staff that either don't drink or one that drinks very little. The rest are mostly okay...I just have to give myself the permission to excuse myself when things get stupid.

I apprieciate the supportive comments.

mslaoshi Laughing
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MsLao,

You know, I am a person that has partook (is that a word?) in said activities around non-consumers.....never ever ever was an issue. Even when I had parties at my flat, I made sure there was enough non-alchy drinks about.

Not sure why you feel uncomfortable around those that imbibe or dub-up. I believe it'd have to be one of two things...your imagination, or that lot.... 'cause it's not an issue for us (the group I hung with).

Party on, responsibly!

!shoosh

Ryst
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no need to drink. It doesn't make one happier, it doesn't make friends, it isn't a useful way to spend the time, it's not condusive to saving money, it's not good for your health..

There is a long list of reasons not to drink, but a very short one for reasons to drink.

You got stress? So getting drunk helps? You wake up poorer, perhaps can't remember what you did the night before and you feel like crap.

If it's a way to meet your friends, or rather something to do with your friends, can't one be more creative? Play some sports together, organize a LAN party for a game, go hiking, climb, explore the city together, learn Korean together....

I guess it's a kind of human nature to want to get "out of it" sometimes, but I think we have to find a more constructive way to alter our mind.

Oh....I don't drink. Wink

If you want to see another reason not to drink, and for me this is the best way to turn away from the sauce...just watch drunk people. It never ceases to amaze me how utterly ridiculous inebriated people look. I don't want to look like that.....ever. Cool
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:

If you want to see another reason not to drink, and for me this is the best way to turn away from the sauce...just watch drunk people. It never ceases to amaze me how utterly ridiculous inebriated people look. I don't want to look like that.....ever. Cool



We could say that for 1/2 the posters on this forum, yet I post (or am I that 'lesser-50%?)

!Shoosh

Ryst
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ladyandthetramp



Joined: 21 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:20 am    Post subject: Holier than thou Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
There is no need to drink. It doesn't make one happier, it doesn't make friends, it isn't a useful way to spend the time, it's not condusive to saving money, it's not good for your health..

There is a long list of reasons not to drink, but a very short one for reasons to drink.

You got stress? So getting drunk helps? You wake up poorer, perhaps can't remember what you did the night before and you feel like crap.

If it's a way to meet your friends, or rather something to do with your friends, can't one be more creative? Play some sports together, organize a LAN party for a game, go hiking, climb, explore the city together, learn Korean together....

I guess it's a kind of human nature to want to get "out of it" sometimes, but I think we have to find a more constructive way to alter our mind.

Oh....I don't drink. Wink

If you want to see another reason not to drink, and for me this is the best way to turn away from the sauce...just watch drunk people. It never ceases to amaze me how utterly ridiculous inebriated people look. I don't want to look like that.....ever. Cool


Can't say I agree with your statements. I remember making such statements about many things before I tried them, only to realize I was wrong afterwards. Sometimes drinking does bring your spirits up. I've made plenty of friends while drinking. As for whether it's a useful way to spend your time or not, I'm not really sure what "useful" or "more constructive" entails in life. It's seems like a pretty subjective/philosophical topic. If having fun with friends is not "useful" in your book, then you must live a really boring life.
When I drink, I don't wake up the next day feeling like crap. I feel just fine. Drinking to get rid of stress? Well, I don't have too much stress right now, but if someone drinks for that reason, who am I to criticize it?
You suggest doing something else instead. Why not do both? I, like many other people who drink, also do many other things like you suggest. You remind me of my "straight edge" friends in high school who criticized everyone who didn't behave like them. Rolling Eyes
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deeluvskitties



Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: songpa-gu

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:23 am    Post subject: drinky Reply with quote

well, i don't really drink much. i maybe get tipsey-giggley-drunk every few months. i like the social aspect, but it isn't necessary to drink to have fun (haha, cliche!)

i don't think i've ever made anyone feel left out when i drink, i have had a friend who didn't drink and it wasn't an issue. i don't smoke up, so sometimes i feel like everyone thinks im a bit of a square, but then again, i dont really care.

so, i don't think you'll find much trouble - maybe from koreans, but whatevs...

if you want to get together for a tea or lemonade, i'm game!
message me! i'm looking to meet new peeps - dry or wet!
- dee
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pain may outwiegh the pleasure in the long run for those who drink a lot. But to have a little fun and escape boredom, it is fun getting drunk. And for us poor social morons alcohol does disinhibit us.
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Aidge



Joined: 15 Jul 2004
Location: CA

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:37 pm    Post subject: Don't be lonely Reply with quote

Hey - stick to your principles! There's a lot more to having fun than depending on a substance. I'm coming in a few days, and I'm not planning on getting drunk...So if you or the Mormon person want to hang out, I'll be in Suji! Wink
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Holier than thou Reply with quote

ladyandthetramp wrote:

Can't say I agree with your statements. I remember making such statements about many things before I tried them, only to realize I was wrong afterwards. Sometimes drinking does bring your spirits up. I've made plenty of friends while drinking. As for whether it's a useful way to spend your time or not, I'm not really sure what "useful" or "more constructive" entails in life. It's seems like a pretty subjective/philosophical topic. If having fun with friends is not "useful" in your book, then you must live a really boring life.
When I drink, I don't wake up the next day feeling like crap. I feel just fine. Drinking to get rid of stress? Well, I don't have too much stress right now, but if someone drinks for that reason, who am I to criticize it?
You suggest doing something else instead. Why not do both? I, like many other people who drink, also do many other things like you suggest. You remind me of my "straight edge" friends in high school who criticized everyone who didn't behave like them. Rolling Eyes



Dude, I have done enough in the past to make a drunk junkie blush. I don't speak of things I have no experience with and I certainly don't need to be reminded of why people believe they can/should/like to drink.

I have lost friends in high school to drunk drivers/alcohol and walked down some pretty dark, lonely roads in life, so my view is hardened. You should learn to understand that behind views there are reasons; that not everyone just spouts off about things they haven't a clue about nor a foundation on which to base their beliefs.

Nice of you to believe I am an empty talker though.

Who are you again?
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