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sublimeshawn
Joined: 25 Aug 2003
Location: Nebraska, USA
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 Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:04 am Post subject: Has anyone read this? |
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Either this guy is just an incredibly anal and bitter man. Or he is trying to ride a high ground that Im not sure exists, just thought it was funny, Im sure it has been posted before any comments?
http://www.conorpurcell.cc/articles/000159.shtml |
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peemil
Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Location: Koowoompa
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| Koreans like sex. In fact they love it. Consensual, under age, extra marital, kinky; you name it, they do it. But most of all Koreans like paid for sex. Korean men that is. They live for it. They spend millions on it every month. They have countless ways of getting their rocks off for cash. Juicy bars. Barber shops. Turkish baths. Room salons. Hostess bars. Strip clubs. Massage parlours. Brothels. About 358,000 men buy sex each day. That��s a lot of money. And a hell of a lot of sex. So why? |
I like this. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:02 am Post subject: |
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"Drunken old men get dragged from singing rooms by the police, an ineffective and corrupt force, even by Asian standards. Vomit and urine fight for position on the roads and paths, joined by broken glass and rotting food. There seems to be an acceptance of lawlessness and disorder here, an inate distrust of rules and regulations. Corruption is rampant and laws are seen as something used to keep the general populace under control, not for the good of the people. This results in one of the highest road death figures in the world, with motorists routinely ignoring the 'rules' of the road. And the soju fuelled anarchy after sun down is notable by a lack of police presence. While there are many countries in the world with lawlessness and disorder, the acceptability of mayhem in South Korea makes a mockery of it's claims to be a regional hub, a dynamic link between Asia and the Pacific Rim."
http://www.conorpurcell.cc/articles/000159.shtml
Difficulties in Living in Korea
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448
Giving-Birth-Abroad Craze Getting Noticed
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200309/200309050023.html
Rotten to the Core?
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200310/200310080034.html
The Aftermath of the Dumpling Scandal
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=040000&biid=2004080742958
Seoul Won't Address NK Human Testing
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200408/kt2004080317364210510.htm
Ohno! Apolo is coming to Jeonju!
Say Osama bin Laden. OK, that's three words for one big, bad guy. Now, say Apolo Anton Ohno. That's three words for dead man walking.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200311/05/200311052309278979900091009101.html
Dead man walking II: cyber-terrorism
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200311/26/200311262330435439900091009101.html |
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manlyboy
Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Either this guy is just an incredibly anal and bitter man. Or he is trying to ride a high ground that Im not sure exists, just thought it was funny, Im sure it has been posted before any comments?
http://www.conorpurcell.cc/articles/000159.shtml |
I see he's from Ireland. And of course, who could compete with the general temperance and respect for authority of the Irish? |
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dutchman
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: My backyard
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| He gets in a fist fight over a traffic violation but apparently does nothing about what was "almost certainly a rape". Nice to know he has his priorities in order. |
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dutchman
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: My backyard
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| He gets in a fist fight over a traffic violation but apparently does nothing about what was "almost certainly a rape". Nice to know he has his priorities in order. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| Korea has a very seedy side which many western teachers are sheltered/forcibly excluded from. I like conor's articles, keep up the good work. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:01 am Post subject: |
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I think the gent in question is none other than Dave's own, 'Saharzie' (please correct me if I'm wrong).
And, yes, his writing is a joke. Joe Thanks has more journalistic integrity than he does.
Sparkles*_* |
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PatrickSiheung
Joined: 21 May 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:23 am Post subject: |
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A fun read.
I still love it here though. |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| Men beat women openly on the streets, and again, no one bats an eyelid. |
Melodrama married to cliche, what a lovely couple they make! |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Fun read. Sounds like he's had a supremely bad time over here...I mean I've never witnessed a rape here, had my taxi rammed off the road, all in the same day. Every appartment I've lived in has been clean, with minimal harrassment from the owner...
Its entertaining stuff..but grotesquely exxagerrated. Ok, In 2 years I've witnessed a guy beating up a woman maybe 2 or 3 times..the stuff he writes happens, but not to the widescale extent he would have you believe.
I lived in our worthy writers homeland, Ireland, 4 years. Let me just recant my more negative observations of his highly civilised country:
1) Threatening foul mouthed hooligans patrolling the streets commonplace: a real in your face aggression on the streets.
2)Racism: The Irish regard themselves as a superior Celtic master race and never accept outsiders for long. Bigotted against anyone from elsewhere. Just ask the Indian shop owners I knew who had to repair broken shop windows every weekend.
3)Violence: A fight is almost as unavoidable on the average night out as a greasy fish supper. In fact I've never been in so many drunken brawls in my life. Many of them sparked by a simple eye contact or bump into someone.
4)Bigotted sectarianism: Granted I lived in N.Ireland predominantly, but its oppressive there.
5)Drunkenness: open and widespread everywhere...
6)Crime: next to assault, theft is a huge problem, personal belongings simply vanish left right and centre if you don't keep a tight guard on them.
7)Cosmopolitanism: Ireland is like Korea, a big little homogenous, xenophobic village unused to foreigners. (Who shouldn't be in our country etc")
I could go on and on....but I'm not a bitter, slanted writer who relies on sensationalism to bolster a journalism career in its infancy...I quit journalism years ago.. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
Fun read. Sounds like he's had a supremely bad time over here...I mean I've never witnessed a rape here, had my taxi rammed off the road, all in the same day. Every appartment I've lived in has been clean, with minimal harrassment from the owner...
Its entertaining stuff..but grotesquely exxagerrated. Ok, In 2 years I've witnessed a guy beating up a woman maybe 2 or 3 times..the stuff he writes happens, but not to the widescale extent he would have you believe.
I lived in our worthy writers homeland, Ireland, 4 years. Let me just recant my more negative observations of his highly civilised country:
1) Threatening foul mouthed hooligans patrolling the streets commonplace: a real in your face aggression on the streets.
2)Racism: The Irish regard themselves as a superior Celtic master race and never accept outsiders for long. Bigotted against anyone from elsewhere. Just ask the Indian shop owners I knew who had to repair broken shop windows every weekend.
3)Violence: A fight is almost as unavoidable on the average night out as a greasy fish supper. In fact I've never been in so many drunken brawls in my life. Many of them sparked by a simple eye contact or bump into someone.
4)Bigotted sectarianism: Granted I lived in N.Ireland predominantly, but its oppressive there.
5)Drunkenness: open and widespread everywhere...
6)Crime: next to assault, theft is a huge problem, personal belongings simply vanish left right and centre if you don't keep a tight guard on them.
7)Cosmopolitanism: Ireland is like Korea, a big little homogenous, xenophobic village unused to foreigners. (Who shouldn't be in our country etc")
I could go on and on....but I'm not a bitter, slanted writer who relies on sensationalism to bolster a journalism career in its infancy...I quit journalism years ago.. |
Just because you personally haven't seen bad things happen, it doesn't mean they are non existant. Do you dispute there is a high rate of rape/sexual abuse and spousal abuse in korea?
I can't see why so many people like to criticise the author. Seems
there are a lot of would be journalists or just people jealous that others are making a living in a credible field other than teaching english. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| rapier wrote: |
Fun read. Sounds like he's had a supremely bad time over here...I mean I've never witnessed a rape here, had my taxi rammed off the road, all in the same day. Every appartment I've lived in has been clean, with minimal harrassment from the owner...
Its entertaining stuff..but grotesquely exxagerrated. Ok, In 2 years I've witnessed a guy beating up a woman maybe 2 or 3 times..the stuff he writes happens, but not to the widescale extent he would have you believe.
I lived in our worthy writers homeland, Ireland, 4 years. Let me just recant my more negative observations of his highly civilised country:
1) Threatening foul mouthed hooligans patrolling the streets commonplace: a real in your face aggression on the streets.
2)Racism: The Irish regard themselves as a superior Celtic master race and never accept outsiders for long. Bigotted against anyone from elsewhere. Just ask the Indian shop owners I knew who had to repair broken shop windows every weekend.
3)Violence: A fight is almost as unavoidable on the average night out as a greasy fish supper. In fact I've never been in so many drunken brawls in my life. Many of them sparked by a simple eye contact or bump into someone.
4)Bigotted sectarianism: Granted I lived in N.Ireland predominantly, but its oppressive there.
5)Drunkenness: open and widespread everywhere...
6)Crime: next to assault, theft is a huge problem, personal belongings simply vanish left right and centre if you don't keep a tight guard on them.
7)Cosmopolitanism: Ireland is like Korea, a big little homogenous, xenophobic village unused to foreigners. (Who shouldn't be in our country etc")
I could go on and on....but I'm not a bitter, slanted writer who relies on sensationalism to bolster a journalism career in its infancy...I quit journalism years ago.. |
Just because you personally haven't seen something doesn't mean it is non existent. Do you dispute there is a high rate of rape/sexual abuse and spousal abuse in korea?
I can't see why so many people like to criticise the author. Seems
there are a lot of would be journalists or just people jealous that others are making a living in a credible field other than teaching english. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| Mashimaro wrote: |
Just because you personally haven't seen something doesn't mean it is non existent. Do you dispute there is a high rate of rape/sexual abuse and spousal abuse in korea?
I can't see why so many people like to criticise the author. Seems
there are a lot of would be journalists or just people jealous that others are making a living in a credible field other than teaching english. |
1)I don't dispute that there is a high rate of rape/sexual/spousal abuse in Korea. Loads of other countries have a similar rate. Ireland has a high rate of alcaholism, mental disorders, and so on. Not to mention crime, dysfunctional families, religious persecution and other outdated catholic-related societal problems.
2)Journalist jibe: I'm a qualified journo and formerly worked at all levels of the newspaper industry, with outstanding credits given by my employers. I left entirely of my own volition and have no desire to get back into it, save for possibly wanting to write more freelance stuff on the cause of wildlife conservation (Which I do a bit here and there anyway). So there's no jealousy here. Incidentally, Conor's style simply wouldn't cut it as a news journalist, which is my qualification. But he would do fine writing for "Lonely planet" if he learned to balance his articles and get some basic rules of presentation going.
3)I enjoy my esl teaching and don't care if its viewed as not credible. I put a lot in and get a lot out. When and if I want to change jobs in the future I will have no problems because I'm a positive guy, believing in my own ability, and know how to present myself.
It just seems funny to hear an Irish guy accusing another cuklture of being debauched, drunken, juvenile, violent etc.
Obviously you've never been to Ireland  |
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yangban
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The Great Green Pacific Northwest
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| The apartment building itself is not much better. Scores of box-like rooms crammed together as close as possible to each other. Within a week or so everything seemed to break. The freezer, the air conditioning, the wallpaper peeled off, piss began to drip through my ceiling, as mould set in. Naturally, getting anything fixed was a titanic battle, due to the Koreans' inefficiency and our building manager's mental health. He was a fifty -omething man, grunting and impolite, constantly dressed in a sewage green jumper and a red hat. His job description seemed to consist of sitting on a stool for extraordinary lengths of time, banging on residents' doors at all hours shouting, getting drunk and generally scratching his ass. Any complaints would be met with the stock reply, "This is Korea," as if Koreans had some innate desire to live in a shit[e]hole. |
Hilarious!!! I loved this paragraph the most. But, um, the whole thing is his perception of Korea. His time was bad there, and it colored the rest of experience. No one seems to be complaining about his talking about the English teaching crowd at the airport as losers and freaks. I think because it is true. There are so many freaks there.
Anyway, why bitch about this article? Much of it is true. Nobody would say anything if this article were written about the experience in the Bronx, or Compton, or some other nasty American area. Hello! Not all bad reports about Korea are racist or attacking Korea. |
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