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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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| Eazy_E wrote: |
| Come on, tomato. How many English-speaking foreigners at Dave's gatherings are going to speak Korean to each other, even if both of them are interested in studying and becoming good at Korean? |
Good question, Eazy_E!
The only way I know to answer your question is to run a poll,
and that is exactly what I am doing:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=25133&highlight= |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:21 am Post subject: |
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If we put all the pieces together, the answer is simple.
1. 90% of EFL jobs are in Korea.
2. We have to get Alien Resistration cards.
3. We read the thread about not having Korea on some world maps.
4. They refer to English as the UNIVERSAL language, not World language.
5. Could this place get "any wierder?
Add all this up and you will clearly see we are teaching English on a different planet. Not Earth. It is all part of their plans to take over Earth. They will prpbably use as slaves and also raise us for food.
************************The Truth is out there ******************
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
If we put all the pieces together, the answer is simple.
1. 90% of EFL jobs are in Korea.
2. We have to get Alien Resistration cards.
3. We read the thread about not having Korea on some world maps.
4. They refer to English as the UNIVERSAL language, not World language.
5. Could this place get "any wierder?
Add all this up and you will clearly see we are teaching English on a different planet. Not Earth. It is all part of their plans to take over Earth. They will prpbably use as slaves and also raise us for food.
************************The Truth is out there ******************
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Well anyway, this is my theory. Anyone else agree?
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
If we put all the pieces together, the answer is simple.
1. 90% of EFL jobs are in Korea.
2. We have to get Alien Resistration cards.
3. We read the thread about not having Korea on some world maps.
4. They refer to English as the UNIVERSAL language, not World language.
5. Could this place get "any wierder?
Add all this up and you will clearly see we are teaching English on a different planet. Not Earth. It is all part of their plans to take over Earth. They will prpbably use as slaves and also raise us for food.
************************The Truth is out there ******************
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Well anyway, this is my theory. Anyone else agree?
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Not really. You wanna teach on another planet, try the Deep South of the US. There is no paperwork to document your transition into another world, and the natives all CLAIM they are speaking English, yet are completely incomprehensible. |
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kylehawkins2000
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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This is a very late response to Gord's reply to my posting.
Basically you have good arguments. My point however still stands. Go up to a korean kid in the street and ask him to make up a story about anything he wants and see him squirm. Why does he squirm? Why do korean's find it more difficult to think creatively than people from western countries? I believe it is a result of a failed educational system. If you have another explanation please let me know what it is. |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| kylehawkins2000 wrote: |
This is a very late response to Gord's reply to my posting.
Basically you have good arguments. My point however still stands. Go up to a korean kid in the street and ask him to make up a story about anything he wants and see him squirm. Why does he squirm? Why do korean's find it more difficult to think creatively than people from western countries? I believe it is a result of a failed educational system. If you have another explanation please let me know what it is. |
Maybe he squirms because he doesn't speak English? Or at least not well enough to provide a story on the spur of the moment that you would put the stamp of creativity on?
I personally have a hard time making up imaginative things when put on the spot like that. It's the difference between being a member of an orchestra or a street performer. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| kylehawkins2000 wrote: |
This is a very late response to Gord's reply to my posting.
Basically you have good arguments. My point however still stands. Go up to a korean kid in the street and ask him to make up a story about anything he wants and see him squirm. Why does he squirm? Why do korean's find it more difficult to think creatively than people from western countries? I believe it is a result of a failed educational system. If you have another explanation please let me know what it is. |
Actually, for my past 5 years in Korea, I have found that the kids (pre-school-HS) have great imaginations and love to participate in class.
One of my most successful activites (pre-school thru HS) has been having the kids write and illustrate (with crayons) their own story books.
This is often done as a collaborative writing project. But each student, and I, will have our own copy after it is finished.
The kids do most of the work, I just help by asking questions and writing the story on the board so they can copy it.
As with all activites, I also participate and that makes the kids take it more seriously. And I also love doing this activity.
Although I have several variations to this activity, I will now share the steps to one:
1. Take 3 or more sheets of comp. copy paper. Enough to have one page for each student and YOURSELF.
2. Fold them over to look like a book.
3. Staple the edge so now you have what looks like a blank book
4. Give one copy of this blank book to each student and have one for yourself.
5. Ask the students, "What is the topic for today's story?"
6. They will yell out several. I write them on the board and then they vote on which topic will be for the story.
7. Have the students make suggestions for the title. Write them on the board and again vote.
8. The students now copy the title on the front cover of the book anyway they want and also draw pictures on it.
9. They go thru the book and draw a line dividing each page intro halves.
The bottom half is for the story and the top for illustrations that match the story part. The page number is also placed at the bottom.
10. Now, we go around the circle and each student (sometimes with a little help from me) says what will be on such and such a page.
11. I write that on the board.
12. Then we all copy that in our books. So, when we are finished we all have the same book and also our own copy. But our illustrations will, of course, be different
13. After each page has the story part finished, we all use our imaginations and draw a picture at the top of the page that matches(and reinforces) the story at the bottom of the page.
14. We continue this system until the book is finished.
When the kids show their parents what they did, the parents are so proud and excited that they often say good things about me to the department. As a matter of fact, we now offer a story book class and I am the teacher.
I hope this helps some of you.
Love and pecks 
Chicken
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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And if your school is like mine there is a parents' observarion day. Mostly moms and siblings, ocassionaly a dad and a grandparent.
First, I make the observers become participators. I have them join in and do whatever activity the kids are doing.
And I always make sure to have a story book project that day and all "obververs" are given a blank book and participate in the activity. They love it, and at the end of the class they tell me it was the most interesting class they have ever observed.
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Kwangju Chicken, these are all good ideas, but they don't exactly fit the topic of the thread.
How about let's start a thread on good ideas? |
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