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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:24 pm Post subject: Compensation for brawling |
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I've never gotten in a fight in Korea except for one time I pushed a 50-year old guy, but that didn't turn into anything.
However, I have a friend who gets into the odd fight and he did again last week. He was in a bar and got into a fight with a British guy, and there was a Korean guy there at the same time who got sucked in somehow and apparently was hurt. The next week the Korean guy showed up at my friend's school with his mom asking for 1 million in damages. They talked about it for a while and eventually settled on 500 000. The mom signed a contract that she wouldn't press charges and that was the end of that. His co-workers tell him that this is quite the common occurrence.
Anybody ever done this? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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The situation you quite is common, though I do wonder what would happen if you refused to pay. If the guy wasn't too cut up and bruised, the police really aren't interested in these piddly cases and always try to push people to settle by themselves. It's fair that the perp of the injurues should pay for medical bills if it was a brawl (rather than an attack) but I really don't think they have much redress if injuries are minor, and there aren't any medical bills. I don't know the situation with your pal, so it's hard to say. But I've heard this story several times.
Anyway, it's best to just avoid hitting people, it's hard here, because some of the people that we attract in Korea have really got it coming, as well as other foreigners we run into. But unless it's in self defense it's just more trouble than it's worth. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
The situation you quite is common, though I do wonder what would happen if you refused to pay. If the guy wasn't too cut up and bruised, the police really aren't interested in these piddly cases and always try to push people to settle by themselves. It's fair that the perp of the injurues should pay for medical bills if it was a brawl (rather than an attack) but I really don't think they have much redress if injuries are minor, and there aren't any medical bills. I don't know the situation with your pal, so it's hard to say. But I've heard this story several times.
Anyway, it's best to just avoid hitting people, it's hard here, because some of the people that we attract in Korea have really got it coming, as well as other foreigners we run into. But unless it's in self defense it's just more trouble than it's worth. |
Butterfly's right. the problem is that self- defence is often the way to lose a fight. If somethings about to happen, its better to get the first hit in quickly. |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| rapier wrote: |
| Butterfly wrote: |
The situation you quite is common, though I do wonder what would happen if you refused to pay. If the guy wasn't too cut up and bruised, the police really aren't interested in these piddly cases and always try to push people to settle by themselves. It's fair that the perp of the injurues should pay for medical bills if it was a brawl (rather than an attack) but I really don't think they have much redress if injuries are minor, and there aren't any medical bills. I don't know the situation with your pal, so it's hard to say. But I've heard this story several times.
Anyway, it's best to just avoid hitting people, it's hard here, because some of the people that we attract in Korea have really got it coming, as well as other foreigners we run into. But unless it's in self defense it's just more trouble than it's worth. |
Butterfly's right. the problem is that self- defence is often the way to lose a fight. If somethings about to happen, its better to get the first hit in quickly. |
Words to live by. Well said. |
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yangban
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The Great Green Pacific Northwest
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| He had to take his mom? |
Yeah, you know he has some beyatch mom who shoves ahead in lines and ushes into people, some old seahag who won't let some foreigner get away with damaging her son. She probably cares more about the money than him anyway and pushed him to do it, otherwise she wouldn't shut up, even if it is common. If a Korean fought her son, she would probably say, "Did you win?" |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| its unusual that this would be done without police involvement...Ive had it occur to me twice... and you have to sign a contract at the police station |
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Ody
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| komtengi wrote: |
| its unusual that this would be done without police involvement...Ive had it occur to me twice... and you have to sign a contract at the police station |
yes. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| Ody wrote: |
| komtengi wrote: |
| its unusual that this would be done without police involvement...Ive had it occur to me twice... and you have to sign a contract at the police station |
yes. |
Avoid a fight= wimp.
fight= had over all your money.
its a lose lose scenario. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| chiaa wrote: |
| rapier wrote: |
| Butterfly wrote: |
The situation you quite is common, though I do wonder what would happen if you refused to pay. If the guy wasn't too cut up and bruised, the police really aren't interested in these piddly cases and always try to push people to settle by themselves. It's fair that the perp of the injurues should pay for medical bills if it was a brawl (rather than an attack) but I really don't think they have much redress if injuries are minor, and there aren't any medical bills. I don't know the situation with your pal, so it's hard to say. But I've heard this story several times.
Anyway, it's best to just avoid hitting people, it's hard here, because some of the people that we attract in Korea have really got it coming, as well as other foreigners we run into. But unless it's in self defense it's just more trouble than it's worth. |
Butterfly's right. the problem is that self- defence is often the way to lose a fight. If somethings about to happen, its better to get the first hit in quickly. |
Words to live by. Well said. |
acually.. its the other way around..
put your arms to your side and let the guy hit you..
then you call the police and get paid..
In korea fighting is illegal and its always settled with DOLLARS!!
your friend did the right thing. otherwise he would have been taken to the station and fined and proscicuted and then it might look real bad..
you would have to pay evenually cause if you didnt. you would prisoned and deported.. and fined!!
A police officer at youngsan told me once..
IF you are ever in a fight.. dont hit! just take a hit and call us..
then you will get paid.. BUT if he hits you.. and you hit him back..
you get nothing, or we have to determine who started and who needs hospital care..
:just raise your hands and shout out "help" people witness it, when police come they say to police what happen.. you no hit.. you get money!!
OF COURSE now.. people if you are in a dark alley or know one is around then smash the guys face in.. or it might be your arse bleeding all over the concrete..
when in doubt!! RUN!!!!! |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Its hard to back down if you're with your girlfriend, or if she's the target of abuse, verbal or otherwise.
Come to think of it, you could make more cash than teaching at this game. Back out of a brawl every week, and pretty soon you'll be raking in more than the average wonjangnim. |
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stevie rotten
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| as far as i can tell korean law is only there to protect koreans. has any non-korean ever collected this bloodmoney for taking a shot? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| stevie rotten wrote: |
| as far as i can tell korean law is only there to protect koreans. has any non-korean ever collected this bloodmoney for taking a shot? |
I can verify that a friend of mine has, but it was not much AND it was an egregious case that happened to be witnessed by a nearby policeman. |
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dg611
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:12 am Post subject: heard it |
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I have heard more than a few cases of foreigners getting paid with the right support and help from the police station or a Korean to help through the communication problems..
previous poster was right....if you can take a punch, do it...the damage you will to when you look at their face handing over the money will hold you over...
matter of fact..it sounds sick and demented but a little Masochism pays more...so,if you can, between the fight and the police station...try to cut yourself up a little more...smear the blood around and rip your shirt/break your glasses/ pull out some hair and leave it smeared in the blood....the person who looks the worst gets the polices favor....particularly if the other guy has nothing...You will get more money.
They have to pay to avoid jail time. |
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Rhoddri
Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| I thought the occurance of settling stuff with cash without police involvement was pretty common....If you're injured, try to drain as much money out of the protangonist as possible. I heard some koreans talking about it before, but my korean is really crappy, the word for this occurance is something like "hab uie"/ hwa bee" (����....ȭ��...) The actual word for it I dunno, but I'm pretty sure it's nothing to get alarmed about. It happens between koreans a lot, so I believe so there's no reason to believe that there's anything outof the way happening here (although maybe they may try and rip you off for more cash) |
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