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textin
Joined: 12 May 2004
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 Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:56 am Post subject: Contract cancelled with no warning/notice.... |
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I was told my contract would revert to part time this week from full time.
I came here to work full time not part time.
My contract states full time.
There was no warnign or notice period. Just a take it or leave it offer.
My contract states quite clearly...full time and 1.9 mill plus 20 days notice for any dismissal without cause.
So I have been dikt.
Any advice on what to do, or whether to bother chasing it up.
I guess I can just leave this place if I need to.
The director has the return ticket but I can just have it reissued.
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Squid
Joined: 25 Jul 2003
Location: Sunny Anyang
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:27 am Post subject: |
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I'll take "revert" to mean "change" in your OP (otherwise it was P/T to begin with, then you worked F/T, then there was a "reversion"... if you see what I mean)
Anyway my advice is simple- get another job. You'll have no problems with visa reissuance because your current employer is in breach of contract, so long as you inform them ASAP of it.
Good luck. |
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textin
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:58 am Post subject: thanks |
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Thanks for the advice....
Yes it was cancelled not reverted. Its a standard full time contract for x amount per month. No where does it say the director can change that.
I do wonder about the labour office but yes, it would be good to just get out and find a new job. They will keep the airfare when i leave I am sure and this will make me angry as they are forcing me to leave. Be nice to have an immigration official on their tail. They are too busy racing around looking for Foreigners who are working illegally!!!
Cheers
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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:30 am Post subject: Re: thanks |
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| textin wrote: |
| Be nice to have an immigration official on their tail. They are too busy racing around looking for Foreigners who are working illegally!!! |
How many months left till you hit the one year mark?
If it's less than half a year, than try using that knowledge as leverage. They've probably bribed the immigration officials that check their school, but they can't bribe the whole agency. I don't like playing hardball, but sometimes you have to. |
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textin
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:50 am Post subject: Elaborate? |
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Hi,
Can you elaborate on that? I dont believe I have anything to bribe them with. They have broken my contract so I guess I could say I will go to the Labour Office (I have mentioned that once already).
I have only been at the school for 4 months thus far....
Cheers
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Don't even threaten. Go, do not walk, do not pass go, go directly to the labor board. Get them involved. The ensuing phone call to the hogwan from them should be enough motivation for the school to give you a letter of release. The labor board will be totally on your side, if everything is shaking down the way that you are describing it.
Or drop these guys a line http://www.efl-law.org/emailassist.php |
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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:14 am Post subject: Re: Elaborate? |
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| textin wrote: |
Hi,
Can you elaborate on that? I dont believe I have anything to bribe them with. They have broken my contract so I guess I could say I will go to the Labour Office (I have mentioned that once already).
I have only been at the school for 4 months thus far....
Cheers
J |
Actually, I was thinking of threatening to tell immigration that they employ illegals. That is assuming that you want to stay. It would make things tense, but you would then get severance and your airfare. If you had only a few months left until hitting the 12 month mark, then I would say it would be worth working in a tense environment for those things.
Since you have eight months to go, I agree with Chronic. Leave and go to the Labor board. |
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textin
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:19 am Post subject: thanks |
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The Labour Board is on the floor under us.....
Its not the immigration office I am registered with but I am sure they have a foreigner section.
I'll check it out.
If they cancelled my contract (from full time to part time) my belief is, they should have to pay up all salary owing, can't deduct an airfare, should ahve to provide a release letter and perhaps even pay for the 20 days notice required but not given. By contract law they would have to anyway. Plus any damages for job change etc.... |
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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Actually, they have to pay 30 days notice. Their termination clause was actually illegal.
I want to check to make sure you understand that Immigration and the Ministry of Labor are completely different entities. Based on what you posted, it looks like you think they're the same thing. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:55 am Post subject: Re: thanks |
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| textin wrote: |
The Labour Board is on the floor under us.....
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You are in the same building as the Labor Board and the school is breaking contracts!  Your director probably even has smokes with the Labor guys out back! And he's blatantly breaking labor law?? Ok, now I've seen everything! That's just ridiculous. |
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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:11 am Post subject: Re: thanks |
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| chronicpride wrote: |
| textin wrote: |
The Labour Board is on the floor under us.....
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You are in the same building as the Labor Board and the school is breaking contracts! Your director probably even has smokes with the Labor guys out back! And he's blatantly breaking labor law?? Ok, now I've seen everything! That's just ridiculous. |
Very true. The OP should definitely report the infractions to a different office of the Labor Board. The one below him has definitely been bribed. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
Overall living conditions, including education, housing, medical care, transportation, immigration, and access to the Internet are pointed to as inconveniences. Not only inconveniences caused by different systems and customs in Korea, but also special discriminating practices, such as the practice of submitting two years of monthly rent in advance like a deposit, which is required of foreigners just because they are foreigners, are ubiquitous.
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448
Transparency International's "Corruption Perceptions Index 2003" lists Korea 10 places lower than what it was last year, meaning the country ranked 50th.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200310/200310080034.html |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: thanks |
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| prosodic wrote: |
| chronicpride wrote: |
| textin wrote: |
The Labour Board is on the floor under us.....
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You are in the same building as the Labor Board and the school is breaking contracts! Your director probably even has smokes with the Labor guys out back! And he's blatantly breaking labor law?? Ok, now I've seen everything! That's just ridiculous. |
Very true. The OP should definitely report the infractions to a different office of the Labor Board. The one below him has definitely been bribed. |
Well, I don't know about that. Plain ignorance is a lot more common than bribery over here. Bribery means that there was planning and foresight involved. Two words that don't set foot within the doors of a hagwon. I'd assume on the side of stubborn absent-mindedness, before thinking that a director is being machiavellian. |
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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: thanks |
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| chronicpride wrote: |
| prosodic wrote: |
| chronicpride wrote: |
| textin wrote: |
The Labour Board is on the floor under us.....
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You are in the same building as the Labor Board and the school is breaking contracts! Your director probably even has smokes with the Labor guys out back! And he's blatantly breaking labor law?? Ok, now I've seen everything! That's just ridiculous. |
Very true. The OP should definitely report the infractions to a different office of the Labor Board. The one below him has definitely been bribed. |
Well, I don't know about that. Plain ignorance is a lot more common than bribery over here. Bribery means that there was planning and foresight involved. Two words that don't set foot within the doors of a hagwon. I'd assume on the side of stubborn absent-mindedness, before thinking that a director is being machiavellian. |
Good point. I still think it would be a good idea to try to report the infractions at a different office. Even if there's no bribery as of yet, the OP's boss is probably chummy with the civil servants below him. |
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textin
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:17 pm Post subject: the point |
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she's broke guys.....thats why
the other teachers are being paid late , including her buddy the academic supervisor.
she has no money to bribe the immigration office...
still, my contract is all up the duff... |
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