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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please let me clarify:

Sogang's site is probably the best that's out there. I'm just saying it could do with some improvements.

Especially in the beginning lessons.

For example: By lesson 3 they are already introducing the past tense.

Then they introduce a new grammatical structure for each successive lesson. They could have done more with less. Instead of overloading the student with all these forms in the beginning lessons, why not work with one form at a time, and give the student more time to practice each form.

If a student is a faster learner, they could easily skip ahead.

There are only 2 lessons working with the simple present, and in those 2 lessons there are only 6 questions each (listening and reading sections)

They could have made at least 10 questions per unit, not that every student would have to do all the questions, but it would be nice to have the extra practice.

In lesson 2, they introduce the equivalent of the English prepositions, "next to, on, under, behind etc", but the pictures they give are so confusing that it is impossible to tell if an object is beside or in front of . They could do with some clearer illustrations, and they could give a lot more work on these items. This is one area where I needed a lot more than they gave on the site, luckily I was able to ask my teacher for some help and practice with these things.

As far as grammar in context goes, that's exactly what asking and answering questions is. Grammar in a communicative context.

I agree with most of what is on the site, but I think that they could have done a lot more with the beginner lessons.

The vocabulary sections are too short, in my opinion. They could have made a lot more matching words to pictures exercises.

They introduce the vocabulary using translation, but then only give exercises for a small percentage of the words in each section.

You say that Korean is hard, I agree. It is hard, but it could be a lot easier if they slowed down their course a bit and gave more exercises for all the vocabulary, grammar and comprehension sections.

The second level lessons are better in that they have an adequate amount of exercises to go with each lesson.

Please don't missunderstand me.
I am not saying that the site is bad, I am just saying it could be better.

kam sam ni da.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marista99 wrote:
Some of you say you took Korean classes. Where did you find these classes? Do the schools advertise? I'd love to find a Korean class in the Incheon or Gimpo area, but I just don't know where to look. I think if I had some formal education in grammar and structure, my solo studying would be much more effective.


To the best of my knowledge, there are no Korean classes available in Incheon or Bucheon, and I'd be very surprised to hear that there are any in Kimpo. You'll probably have to commute to Seoul if you're interested in taking regular Korean classes. Since you're on Yeongjeongdo (a.k.a. Airport Island) I suspect you will find this difficult to do outside of the weekends.

There are some great Saturday classes available, and I can also point you in the direction of a good langage exchange club that meets on Sundays.

If you can commute to Jongno in Seoul, YBM offers pretty good classes, but they're 5 days a week during the week.

PM me if you want details about any of the above.
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:32 pm    Post subject: wow Reply with quote

I am impressed with the commitment and motivation shown here. I am ashamed to admit my level of proficiency. I have been here a few years and have not gotten wround to really putting forth the effort to learn the language. I think it is a motivational issue. In some countries, i.e., Malaysia or Indon esia, i can learn it very fast. I have more of an amiable relationship with some languages than with others.

I lived in Hong Kong for several years and my Cantonese is so so. I did do a few semesters of Cantonese studies in University and got A's in my courses, but the conversational level is so so.

I totally agree with the argument that grammar often gets in the way. In Thailand I talked to some men and women who spoke excellent English and none of them had taken classes. Many solely learned by conversing with foreigners. One was not around foreigners and learned much from a book through memory and studying at night and morning. He then moved to a tourist area and began conversing regulary and his conversational English is almost Californian.

I am impressed that these Thais learned so well in such short time without a formal classroom setting.

On

Probably the best English speakers are the juicy girls in Itaewan Smile.
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