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[Kain067]

Sorry about that sh--, cellphone. Those sound a whole lot like my incidents. Definitely no incitement from your part. Just walking along, minding your own business... that's when it always happens. It's sick, really.

I feel like we are blacks in the the south of America in the 1950's, except we come from a more "developed" and internationally accomplished culture, so that adds insult to our foreignication. It's the stupid youth, and drunk ajosshis, that seem so inclined to make their racism known. But they are definitely not acting alone, and certainly eveyone who has racist thoughts do not act on them... much the opposite in an emotionally-repressed Asian society. So who knows what everyone else wants to do, when such a high percentage of foreigners here are outright assaulted multiple times.

One more thing, please don't lie about your nationality. That's a bit shameful, in my book. I have never lied about it when asked, and as far as I can plan I never will. I am damn proud of it, and will not squirm under some fool's racist gaze. But it does show the general views here, when people feel forced to lie about being American.

[Kain067]

[Alias]

[Kain067]

I don't say we have it as bad, that's for sure. But the average Korean's attitude towards us is similar. Now not everyone in the South wanted to kill blacks. There were groups that did, but they were never legally supported (officially). Here we have a large student populace that regularly attacks foreigners in the streets. Not as bad, but it is certainly not being offically cracked down on in any manner.

[chronicpride]

[TheUrbanMyth]

[Kain067]

[crazylemongirl]

[Homer]

CLG...you do realise that korean students had very good reason to riot in the recent past....right?

Nowadays many do so without good reason of course....

[the_beaver]

[matthewwoodford]

[the_beaver]

[crazylemongirl]

[captain kirk]

I ought to dismiss what I'm about to relate, but I'll tell you anyway. Because reading this thread brings it to mind. Last night at 3am I hear the frenzy of a derisive 'lecture' or 'talking down' sprinkled with Korean insults. It was all in Korean. The guy was getting very heated. He sounded middle aged, putting his whole heart into it. I looked out the window (live on the first floor) and sure enough there's this guy looking back at me, derisively lecturing on. I'm watching a video and working on making boomerangs, one of my hobbies these days. Chuckling 'what an idiot/stupid jerk/loser'. I'm not worried or looking for a baseball bat. The video ends and I am bothered by this nonsense, so I pull on some pants to head to the pcbang. He's out there, but hearing me slamming around getting ready to go has moved 10 meters down the sidewalk. I walk toward him, he starts walking to me. I just look at him with wide-eyes, no emotion, like 'wow, you are a piece of work'. He looks back and says in a meek voice, 'sorry'. I think he snapped out of it and saw there was a real person and I look like what I am, a teacher of children, someone who has a role and some common sense. While he's out there at 3am yelling outside my apt. for the neighbourhood to hear what he thinks about foreigners in the neighbourhood. He didn't even look that drunk. I passed him and he walked away, in the other direction, from my door. About 30 meters down a lady called from an apt window 'shwee go row uhn', complaining at me as if it was me yelling a derisive lecture at 3am. So the guy wasn't drunk really, wasn't crazy, looked like somebody's uncle with a job. But obviously he felt it was completely ok to wake up the neighbourhood with this righteous defending the homefront behaviour. I just chock it up to 'that's Korea for you'. I wouldn't miss it for the world. It's nothing unusual and perfectly normal here. A perfectly normal guy carrying on like this. And hey, I think Korean people are fantastic. If I left Korea I'd miss the subdued, deeply respectful, controlled manners of Korean people. Just once in a while some awful misguided shennanigans like the above. So be it!

[chronicpride]

Kirk, no offence, you're one of the good ones and I luv what you write, but please try to hit enter a few times, with your stuff. Paragraphs put less strain on the eyes and makes a longer post seem smaller and more condensed, thus ensuring readers don't skim or skip over your well-put vantage points. There are others that post like you, but I only am suggesting this to you, as you are a regular and I like to regularly read your posts, as do others.

And Kain, try not to be too defensive regarding my constructive criticism. I could have responded to those things that I had beefs about in a much more scathing manner, considering my feelings about people walking the thin lines of hypocrisy and blatant double-standards, which I have a fierce furnace within me about that kind of stuff, especially when one is unrealizingly racially stereotyping an ethnic group in a thread one started about being racially stereotyped. That type of stuff just drives me nuts. I could put a lot of poisonous venom into my responses, but I won't. Because acting emotionally out-of-line, doesn't solve anything.

If you re-read my earlier post, I had included a lot of words like 'in my experience', or 'I'm sure that you have a Korean social circle', 'you're better than that', in effort to give you the benefit of the doubt, in hopes to tone down the chance of mis-reading my intent and constructive criticism about your earlier remarks, which, as I mentioned, I feel seethingly passionate about.

I'm sorry if my choice of remarks in my earlier post to you made you feel defensive, but please recognize that there was a strong effort made to water them down, beforehand. I think if I was to sugarcoat even further to assuage your feelings, my point would have been lost.