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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: bored with gord 2 Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
One of the reasons I stoop to classroom insults is they are one of the few forms of communication this schmuck is probably able to grasp.

His ability to jump to conclusions leads me to the hope that someday he will do it next to a cliff or a balcony on a tall tall building, preferably something near the top. Thereby ridding the world of his presence.


It is cute how you bust out the grade-school insults after you are unable to justify your stated position with any sort of supportive argument.


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It is far more likely that you are once again jumping to conclusions....as usual misinformed and off topic.

My one job is probably having little impact on hogwan owners, but the sheer number of native speakers being put into schools at all levels will have an impact and thats a fact!


Ok Mr. Economics, perhaps you can tell me why increasing the number of foreign teachers in public schools would not increase demand for foreign language studies with native teachers? Remember, most students do not study English with a native speaker. In my opinion, as someone who has forgotton more about economics and marketing that you will ever learn, your job is a driving force in increasing the number of students attending English language studies as students who would never have attened a class with a native speaker will want to do so now after receiving exposure to a native speaker (especially due to the smaller classes an academy offers).

Though rather than just saying "oh, I disagree" and then toss in some grade-school insult that you honestly believe is witty, perhaps you could explain your position. Remember, every student already goes to school to learn everything else already, and almost all of them take redundant classes for those same subjects at academies, so your "they are already learning from me!" won't hold up to any sort of rebutle.

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You are unable to rain on my parade as everything you say is like the babbling of a monkey, incoherent and not of much import except to the other monkeys AF and tmkatm.


You have pretty much abandoned discussing the subject matter with supportive facts and instead are using insults as your primary vehicle, yet you claim that I have not "rained on your parade" despite the rather obvious conclusion we have all reached that I completely washed it out?


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Once again you have bored me...yawn.


When one loses a debate, they tend to cite that. Others, they simply take their toys and go home when they lose a game.

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Anyone who is interested can go to eslslaves and sign on the die gord die section to register their own opinions of this schmuck

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It is more along the lines that I am unable to express my true feelings for this sack of $hit what with the swear filter here.


You have to run away to another forum just so you can use vulgarities? Oh goody, so instead of even pretending to try and use supportive facts in the discussion, you can throw insults about my mother and suggested homosexual practices at me using a vast collection of swear words with reckless abandon.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:41 pm    Post subject: yup Reply with quote

Isnt it amazing Exclamation My ability to use words spans all aspects of culture.

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In my opinion, as someone who has forgotton more about economics and marketing that you will ever learn,


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Once again you promote your own ignorance....your opinion...refer to the babbling of monkeys.
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let me get this straight...you are an economics genius, computer guru, english sensei and a homo marine wannabe all rolled into one Rolling Eyes Well roll over superman and spread em for the latest supervillian to enter the world of fantasy.

You are a pathetic little boy who feels the need to bash other people. Me I just tell it like it is.

A little economic lesson for you

Korea is suffering an economic downturn. Therefore many people have less money for extras like private lessons. Now there are two theories to this...one is that because the economy is down that more people will enroll thier children in English academies in an attempt to gaurantee them better jobs in the future...sacrificing now for the future. The other theory is that why would a parent pay for something when they are now getting it for free. The idea of English academies is to expose their children to a native speaker if they are getting this exposure at school why pay exorbitant fees for the same service.

I hope this helps you.

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all of them take redundant classes for those same subjects at academies


Why do YOU feel these other academies are not neccasary?



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despite the rather obvious conclusion we have all reached


Wow now you are reaching conclusions for others as well as yourself

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It is cute


It is interesting that you keep using this term in many of your posts when you are obviously trolling and looking for some attention. I hope that my continued education of you(and your 'friends') helps in some small way.[/b]
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:43 pm    Post subject: Missing Reply with quote

Grotto,

No doubt Gord got the best of you on this issue.

Unfortunately, I think you might have missed the point that Gord made, due to your hatred of him.

Korean students may be getting exposed to English in the Elementary schools, but there is absolutely no correlation to whether they will or will not attend an academy for English.

Your conclusions are a bit off, as many students overlap their studies between schools and academies.

Nut
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: yup Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
Once again you promote your own ignorance....your opinion...refer to the babbling of monkeys.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Damn thats funny.


Annecdotal evidence being that your claims to the economic nature of this industry heavily support the idea that I do know more than you, even without busting out our respectice track records for a direct comparison.


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let me get this straight...you are an economics genius, computer guru, english sensei and a homo marine wannabe all rolled into one Rolling Eyes Well roll over superman and spread em for the latest supervillian to enter the world of fantasy.


Economcs genius and computer guru, yes. Though my English is far from impressive when compared to others, and I'm amused that you couldn't save your homosexual insults for the other forum. Have you written down a large collection of them that you plan on using the moment I arrive? Will they be before or after the "your mom" insults?

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You are a pathetic little boy who feels the need to bash other people. Me I just tell it like it is.


To "tell it like it is" is to express honesty, not to make things up as you go along.

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A little economic lesson for you

Korea is suffering an economic downturn. Therefore many people have less money for extras like private lessons. Now there are two theories to this...one is that because the economy is down that more people will enroll thier children in English academies in an attempt to gaurantee them better jobs in the future...sacrificing now for the future. The other theory is that why would a parent pay for something when they are now getting it for free. The idea of English academies is to expose their children to a native speaker if they are getting this exposure at school why pay exorbitant fees for the same service.

I hope this helps you.


How the hell is that helpful? You didn't say anything other than toss out a couple theories without backing them up, one of which goes against you and one that goes for you. You're just making noise instead of educating me. Let's see some numbers that deal in supporting any theory you are tossing out.

Though I am curious that if you should run with your second theory how you could explain that during the IMF bailout when the Korean economy contracted and had massive layoffs, the English academy industry had the largest growth ever.

I agree that during times of fiscal restraint, people are generally more careful with their money. But that doesn't mean anyone is going to say "I'm not going to send my child to an English academy where they interact with a native speaker in a small class for three to five hours a week and instead let them just have a public school education where they interact with a native speaker for an hour a week in a class of more than forty students." As I noted before, exposure to a native speaker will spur demand both from direct results and from encouragement either from excitement or highlighted shortcomings.

You lied to me. You promised enlightenment and failed to deliver.

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Why do YOU feel these other academies are not neccasary?


Way to read English. While "redunant" means excess, like many other words it has many other definitions. And given my computer background you cited in this very message, I chose to follow the computer definition which means to duplicate something. Thus they are ensuring that everything is learned that should be covered.



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Wow now you are reaching conclusions for others as well as yourself


So when people are talking about how those messages are only appearing on my monitor? I find that claim to be a work of fiction like much of what you post.

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It is interesting that you keep using this term in many of your posts when you are obviously trolling and looking for some attention. I hope that my continued education of you(and your 'friends') helps in some small way.[/b]


I don't really have much else to say other than "it's cute". It's like having a three year old walk up to me and start threatening. It's just cute to watch, both from the point of that it's unexpected because they are hopelessly outclassed and would never win and from the sheer ignorance they they actually believe they have a chance.

To me, you're that small child. Your understanding matter legal and economic is limited only to your annecdotal experiences and things you hope to be true. Your insults are grade school and poor. Your primary vehicle is to make things up as you go along and then insult people as the supportive stance. And when it comes to "go time" and you are forced to deal only in facts, you run away. Even now, you refuse to deal in facts of any sort but imaginary anecdotal claims.

If you really want, one day when you get better at giving out insults and supporting your stated opinions with facts, and you wish to combine the two of them into a debate of epic proportions, I'll play. I'll come and show you how the pros play the game. Until then, your token efforts (no matter how creative you believe they are) are little more than cute.
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Grotto



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:37 pm    Post subject: lol Reply with quote

well if this isnt the pot calling the kettle black Laughing

You post vague theories yourself and pull one little internet reference out and proclaim it to be the sun itself.

I notice you did not post any information to support your opinions yet you sit there and do the same damn thing. You make claims and they say well everyone agrees with me Razz

Anecdotal evidence eh? 2 : based on or consisting of reports or observations of usually unscientific observers

Sort of describes you to a T doesnt it. Unscientific....sums it up in one word.

Well I am pleased to see that my insults do bother you. It is nice to see that you took the time to look them up in the dictionary...or did you have someone explain them to you.

You have what is more commonly called an overinflated opinion of yourself. Overinflated something like a pigs bladder that used to used for a game in which it was repeatedly kicked. Ahhhh something like you.

honesty.....and express.......

HONESTY, HONOR, INTEGRITY, PROBITY mean uprightness of character or action. HONESTY implies a refusal to lie, steal, or deceive in any way. HONOR suggests an active or anxious regard for the standards of one's profession, calling, or position. INTEGRITY implies trustworthiness and incorruptibility to a degree that one is incapable of being false to a trust, responsibility, or pledge. PROBITY implies tried and proven honesty or integrity

You once again its the pot calling the kettle black.

You continually mislead, misrepresent and decieve through your vague posting where you post crap. 500$ a month to live on Shocked and you dont post anything to support your position.

Let break that little gem down will we.

You claim Rolling Eyes that people can live on 500$ a month if they live away from the city center.

You claim that they can rent a house for 225$ a month if you shack up with 3 or 4 other people. Check out the rents in any provincial capital in Canada. Houses go for over a grand. hmmm 3 or 4 people that you can trust and live with...

Lets just say okay I found 4 other people willing to share a house that I could trust and we each paid 200$ a month...thats a grand.

Now utilities average utilities for a family of 5 come to about 200$ a month during summer and doubling that in winter or even more. Now bus passes range from 70$Edmonton to 90$ in Toronto. Food for one person, if you eat frugally preparing all food yourself will run between 150-250$ a month. That is if you eat healthy, I am sure you could live on nothing but rice 7 days a week but lets be realistic. You can do it!

I have 500$ to live off of..my rent is 200$, utilities 50$ food 150$...oops left out sundries like TP, laundry detergent, soap, toothpaste etc. Lets say about 30$ a month.. damn we forgot clothes, and the bus pass or the much vaunted mountain bike that only costs 300$ which is pretty much useless in winter. I guess you havent bought a mountain bike lately. A bike of medium quality runs about 800$ + so lets forget the bike considering you would have to save up for about 6-8months to be able to afford it.

Rent 200$(according to gord)utilities 60+$(minimum usually more) food `150$, 30$sundries, bus pass 80$ splitting the difference between Toronto and Edmonton. oops there we go 520$ and we still arent clothed, paid for medication, or any other extra items that may come up. sick days/not getting paid etc.

did you post any evidence to support your stance? No you just bashed away like the loser you are. Making up things as you went along.

In my post I said there are many theories and many of them do conflict. Such is the way of theories....for that is what they are until they become proof.

Everytime you read one of my posts you become more enlightened, you begin to see the inner evil that is gord.....my light shines through your cobwebs of deciet like a sword cleaving a very dense gourd(see the anolgy)

Following your own definitions is fine Rolling Eyes you should try to be more clear of you meaning then.

I just look at the clowns who are supporting you. I have read the posts of corporal and tmkatm and find them to be cut of the same cloth as you. You ambush...you babble...you rant.....you troll....then you just sit on you fat ass and keep saying prove it, while offering no proof yourself. When people actually provide proof you dig up some partial reference and tout it as the whole of the facts.


You can try to insult my intelligence all you want but its like watching a chimp try to figure out tool use. Thats cute it really is!

[/quote]Your understanding matter legal and economic is limited only to your annecdotal experiences and things you hope to be true.
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Yawn...you bore me. but once again I will try to help you out.
It should be: Your understanding OF matterS legal and economic is limited (only delete only) to your annecdotal experiences and things you hope to be true.

You are right though it is pretty obvious that English isnt your primary language. Or is it really that difficult to type and eat lice at the same time?


You know I would love to see you start posting some facts.....for one who 'claims' to post the truth


wow

a debate of epic proportions[quote]

Good thing you have enough ego for both of us! Wow epic proportions.

Interesting that with one breath you claim that I am beneath you awe inspiring intellect Rolling Eyes and yet with the next stroke of the pen you deem me worthy of an epic debate

Try to stay consistent.
Laughing Maybe not Harvard debate rules but it will do


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto, you are just embarrassing yourself now. You sound mentally ill on some of your posts.
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Manner of Speaking



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gord wrote:
She offered me a job for 2M+housing a month for 3 hours a day. That's a pretty good deal, and I wouldn't have to leave my apartment.

Gord,

Wow that's not bad. Is this in Seoul?

I've always been of the opinion that the native English teacher job market in Korea is pretty much insulated from the ups and downs of the economy. If the economy is 'doing bad', people spend more time taking institute classes in order to improve their competitive edge in finding a job (and also they have the time). If the economy is 'doing well', people have more money to spend on institute classes.

Of course, that could be just wishful thinking on my part. Smile

But I'm always intrigued by 'tech innovations' in teaching...teaching at home via internet, for example. Sometimes I wonder if in another 20 years all the 'hogwon hell' jobs will be done via computer and video feed from one's own country.
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Gord



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:51 am    Post subject: Re: lol Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
well if this isnt the pot calling the kettle black Laughing

You post vague theories yourself and pull one little internet reference out.


I am amused that you belittle my supporting facts while refusing to offer any in support of yours. Well, there were those times you cited a couple things in the Labour Standards debate, but you were quoting out of context. All were amused when the law clearly stated it supported what you said it clearly prohibited.



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I notice you did not post any information to support your opinions yet you sit there and do the same damn thing. You make claims and they say well everyone agrees with me Razz


That's odd, you just said I did post up supporting facts. Plus you can find links to many sources in many of my postings. If there is something specific you would like me to address, I will provide links as I have before. Sadly, my requests for you to support your own statements are yet to ever be fulfilled.

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Anecdotal evidence eh? 2 : based on or consisting of reports or observations of usually unscientific observers
Sort of describes you to a T doesnt it. Unscientific....sums it up in one word.


A curious sidestep. Would it really be such a burden to you to stay on subject?

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Well I am pleased to see that my insults do bother you. It is nice to see that you took the time to look them up in the dictionary...or did you have someone explain them to you.


I think I used that line back when I was 13. Good to see you're reusing all the good stuff while it's hot.


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You continually mislead, misrepresent and decieve through your vague posting where you post crap. 500$ a month to live on Shocked and you dont post anything to support your position. Except your ignorant, inflamatory, opinion.


From a thread where you refused to support your claims that living on $500 could not be done. But hey, I see now you are going to try and support it. Better late than never, even if it's in the wrong thread.

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Rent 200$(according to gord)utilities 60+$(minimum usually more) food `150$, 30$sundries, bus pass 80$ splitting the difference between Toronto and Edmonton. oops there we go 520$ and we still arent clothed, paid for medication, or any other extra items that may come up. sick days/not getting paid etc.


The Government of B.C., with many people whose jobs are to keep track of the minimum costs of living, has established that the necessities line is less than $175 a month plus utilities. It would appear you have inflated your costs to meet an agenda.

If you wish to disagree with the Government of B.C., you are going to have to do better than "here are some unsupported numbers!". Remember, we are talking "minimum to survive", not "a cool lifestyle".

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did you post any evidence to support your stance? No you just bashed away like the loser you are. Making up things as you went along.


I didn't "bash", I explained. If you would like, I'm willing to hit the links and start posting them up. But to be fair, since you are the one stating that your opinion is correct you should be posting up links first. I know it's crazy talk because you never post up links, but you're going to have to get into the habit eventually.

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In my post I said there are many theories and many of them do conflict. Such is the way of theories....for that is what they are until they become proof.


In other words you don't have any idea what you're talking about. Well, great. Next time stick to things you can prove when citing things as being obvious conclusions which aren't obvious at all, but rather it appears the conclusions are contradictory to your very claims.

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Everytime you read one of my posts you become more enlightened, you begin to see the inner evil that is gord.....my light shines through your cobwebs of deciet like a sword cleaving a very dense gourd(see the anolgy)


How dare I confront people who just make things up. I am Mr. Inconvenient.

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I just look at the clowns who are supporting you. I have read the posts of corporal and tmkatm and find them to be cut of the same cloth as you. You ambush...you babble...you rant.....you troll....then you just sit on you fat ass and keep saying prove it, while offering no proof yourself. When people actually provide proof you dig up some partial reference and tout it as the whole of the facts.


That's pretty odd. The last debate I posted up links to the Frasier Instituture that stated their "poverty line" was actually a "modern living line" and not a poverty line in the historical sense, or in the previous debate about the Labour Standards Act I linked and quoted the actual act about a dozen times. Compared to your grand total of zero links or quotes in those two threads plus this one. And you say I offer up no proof?

Well, technically in the law debate you did make one quote and one citation. You cited a law passage that did not exist, and you quoted a partial law that you claimed supported your position while choosing to ignore the next line that said the law did not apply to your stated position. Good times, good times.


Zing! You got me! I cannot possibly stand against such original insults! Oh please, make the bad man stop.

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You can try to insult my intelligence all you want but its like watching a chimp try to figure out tool use. Thats cute it really is!


I'm not insulting your intelligence. Rather, recently in a few threads I've simply demonstrated most everything you said was wrong and generally supported my words with outside facts. Some smart people believe that cows are sacred, and I don't insult their intelligence either because I disagree. But if they insist that I must find them sacred too, I would have no issue in expressing my disagreement in a thoughful manner.

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Yawn...you bore me. but once again I will try to help you out.
It should be: Your understanding OF matterS legal and economic is limited (only delete only) to your annecdotal experiences and things you hope to be true.


And here I was thinking it was because of my university education on the subject matters as well as followup reading after the fact, and supported by my never losing a court case involving contracts that I had wrote (or any court case ever).

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...grade school insults...




If you are going to try and insult me, at least do something creative and worthy of the time it takes us to read.
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Grotto



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my information about cost of living from statCan. Where they are posted for the world to see. Of course there will be some variation from province to province but on the whole its the cost of operating a household per week or month.

statcan.ca/English/Pgdb/famil.htm#hou

There ya go. Nowhere did I see a post saying that people can live on 500$ a month...this is just YOUR opinion. And like all YOUR opinions they are worth nothing.

Now that I have steered you to the right site I am sure you will waste countless hours looking through the material to find something that is totally off topic and post it up claiming that it disputes everything I have said.


As for posting out of context I bow to the master. You certainly love to post around the fringe of the OP and troll for reaction.

Yawn find another MO.

You bore me little boy.
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Gord



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
I got my information about cost of living from statCan. Where they are posted for the world to see. Of course there will be some variation from province to province but on the whole its the cost of operating a household per week or month.

statcan.ca/English/Pgdb/famil.htm#hou

There ya go. Nowhere did I see a post saying that people can live on 500$ a month...this is just YOUR opinion. And like all YOUR opinions they are worth nothing.


Your link doesn't work. Not that I'm surprised or anything.

But I dug around the site and found some numbers. But sadly, I could not find anything that said "minimum cost of housing" and whatnot, but rather "average amounts being spent on housing" per area, and then average cost of housing as a percentage of income. That doesn't really help you at all as it tracks what people are spending, not minimum costs to spend.

But if you have such evidence where Stats Canada has decreed what the minimum cost of housing per person, I would like to see it. Especially since Stats Canada doesn't track how much people have to spend, but rather what they are spending.

I find it amusing that you have been unable to disprove my opinion, so you just keep insulting it. Your mother must be so proud.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:16 pm    Post subject: sigh Reply with quote

now that I have actually provided you with information on the cost of living you now want the minimum cost of living.


Quit dodging around the issue. The minimum cost of living..lets see cardboard boxes free from back of department store for your luxurious apartment.....rotting fruit and meat from dumpster behind store for your balanced diet, collecting bottles from near a frat house for your income...why you could save millions.

Why dont you dig up some stats on the minimum cost of living Exclamation

By your own admission you cant find any! Instead of making claims back up your own worthless opinion!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:39 am    Post subject: Re: sigh Reply with quote

Grotto wrote:
now that I have actually provided you with information on the cost of living you now want the minimum cost of living.


No you didn't. You posted a link to a web page that did not exist and posted up some numbers that were from the top of your head that you didn't qualify. That's a petty wide gap.

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Quit dodging around the issue. The minimum cost of living..lets see cardboard boxes free from back of department store for your luxurious apartment.....rotting fruit and meat from dumpster behind store for your balanced diet, collecting bottles from near a frat house for your income...why you could save millions.


Me? Dodging? Ok, just keep the lies coming. Alright.

Anyway, my position was that a person can live on less than $200 for daily consumables while spending $300 a month on housing and utilities. In a smaller city, this will get a person single, smaller apartment in an older building, but in larger cities to meet that level one will have to share housing. That means 4 people in a house, two people in an apartment, etc.

It's not rocket science.

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Why dont you dig up some stats on the minimum cost of living Exclamation

By your own admission you cant find any! Instead of making claims back up your own worthless opinion!


Who said I couldn't find any? Hell, I found numbers from both ends. Let's run with SPARC BC, an advocacy group. They have decreed that the cost of living (not including rent and utilities) in B.C. is about $400 a month. http://www.sparc.bc.ca/research/falling_behind_report.html Follow the links to their PDFs on the subject matter, complete with fancy little charts. Their argument is that a "cost of living" should be the cost of being part of the community. One example they use is should the cost of living involve being forced to see the aquarium during school visits because one can't afford tickets, or should a cost of living include being able to buy one's own ticket to visit? A noble goal, but a library is cheaper thus is above a true "cost of necessities" which we are discussing.

On the flip side of the coin, the B.C. Government has declared the cost of living in B.C. is less than $200 a month. For that, it would cover all basic food, clothing, and other expenses so that one can survive. I'll dig up the page later (as I found it originally at work) that talks why welfare pays $185 a month as a "cost of living allowance" and how they reached that figure.

You are going out and creating a big picture of people living in boxes, which is a lie. So a person has to share a house with some friends. Great. Or a person has to convert a living room in an apartment to serve as an extra bedroom. Or just live in smaller housing.

While it's cool to eat out every day and live the high life, that isn't guaranteed in life.

And before you go off and tell me how one can't life off $175 a month, I'll tell you right now that I have. Back in October of 1997, I opened a game store. It was great, it was glorious, it cost me many thousands of dollars. And then my bank decided that because I had started setting the place up (and had blown through most of my savings), that I was no longer a new business but rather an existing business, thus they yanked my loan that was approved. Well, let's have sex involving a crowbar. While I sat down and tried to figure out how I was going to survive this complete screwover without having to liquidate everything and take a hit of a few thousand dollars, I opened the place and ran my lifestyle on a shoestring budget so the store would have the greatest chance for survival.

For breakfast, I ate Captain Crunch and milk for a cost of 40 cents a day. Captain Crunch is actually one of the more expensive cereals, oddly enough. For lunch, a sandwich I brought from home that cost about another 40 cents. For dinner, I went big with an instant pasta box and some bread that cost about a dollar. Woo. And I used frozen juice which cost $1 for 1.5 litres. I carpooled to work which meant leaving early and getting home late. And no long distance phone calls on the phone.

Luckily for me, the business went gangbusters. But for a couple months, I lived on less than $100 a month because I wanted to ensure that the business would have all the money it would need to survive.

So don't you tell me how it can't be done. I've done it, and not because I had to. Did I enjoy having an entertainment allowance of nothing? Of course not. Did I enjoy getting to work at 8:30am when the store didn't open until 10am? Nope.

So unless you have some secret link that shows I was living in Bizarro World and that in places like B.C. where welfare pays $185 a month for the cost of living are murdering their citizens, I kindly ask you to be quiet. Just because here in Korea many people will tell you that "you must be smart, you can speak English!" doesn't mean it's true.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A contributing factor to the decline in student numbers could be that 10% of the families in this country are bankrupt and a goodly share of the rest are afraid they will be soon.
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't Gord & Grotto discuss jobs or the "nosediving number of students" on this thread? What does the cost of living in Canada have to do with anything? Why hasn't a new thread been created for them?

Still, I find it mildly entertaining to see them smack each other around.

Say, I've got an idea. They should pick a pub in Seoul to continue their off-topic battle royale. We could charge admission! I'd even be willing to pay their beer tabs! The rules would be, they could rant & shout & cuss at each other across the table, but they couldn't actually take a swing at each other. They could, however, throw, spit or otherwise project beer at each other. Beyond that, though, no physical contact. Twisted Evil

Try as I might, though, I've never seen these individuals before, so the only visual I have is their avatars showing up at the pub. Very Happy Weird.
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nev



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would consider paying money to see this.
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