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Ody
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: over here
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 Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: HOW DID YOUR GET YOUR UNIVERSITY POSITION? Recruitors? |
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HOW DID YOUR GET YOUR UNIVERSITY POSITION?
i answered a listing at one of the other Korean Job Forums. sent my resume without a picture since they expressly requested that no pics be submitted (as they were interested in academic qualifications and work experience not one's appearance).
the interview went well and viola, i was offered the position. �� pretty simple actually; i think, as in most things, timing is a major factor. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds good, I'll try for one for March 2005. |
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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
Location: ����
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: HOW DID YOUR GET YOUR UNIVERSITY POSITION? Recruitors? |
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| yeramian wrote: |
I'm here in Sadang Seoul, I have a Masters degree and a Tesol certificate. I was teaching employee's of Hynix Corporation in Eugene. I taught for a really rigurous English camp at the end of July, my first job here. People say I should be able to get a University Institute position with a Masters, but I don't see many positions listed. I wouldn't want a really large classroom.
I don't speak Korean so contacting colleges directly is difficult to impossible. Have any of you found a good recruitor for University positions? |
Hey Yeramian,
Send me your contact info and earliest possible start date via PM. I might be able to hook you up depending on when you can start. If you get the job and like it, just buy me a few beers. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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I know a girl who got a job at Seoul National Woman's University and she get's the long vacations as well but has to do summer and winter camps.
WTF?
There seems to be a lack of continuity between university teaching conditions in Korea.
Does the Ministry of Education have any say over who can be hired to teach as a faculty member in a univeristy?
Are any of you actually faculty members?
Also, I thought the international academic ranking for university teachers was:
1. Instructor
2. Assistant Professor
3. Associate Professor
4. Professor
How in the world does someone with merely a B.A., 2 years teaching practice and no record of contributing to the literature become a full blown professor?
Sounds like the Twilight Zone LOL!!! |
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J.B. Clamence
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| TECO wrote: |
I know a girl who got a job at Seoul National Woman's University and she get's the long vacations as well but has to do summer and winter camps.
WTF? |
Quite common. As I said, it depends on the university. Some make you work during the breaks, while others don't. Some compromise and make you work during one break while you get the other one off. Even if you have to work during the breaks, it's still not a bad deal compared to hakwons. There are usually at least 1 or 2 weeks off at both the beginning and end of each break, not to mention that the hours during the year are often half of what you would be teaching at a hakwon.
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| There seems to be a lack of continuity between university teaching conditions in Korea. |
Correct. Each university makes its own rules, policies, and hiring practices. That's why when accepting a university position, you should pay attention to the details and ask questions to make sure you know exactly what is expected of you.
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| Does the Ministry of Education have any say over who can be hired to teach as a faculty member in a univeristy? |
I'm not sure what the law says, but it doesn't seem that way. Many universities hire people with very low qualifications (ie - BA and very limited experience), while others would not. It all depends on the university and how desperate they are. As I said, they make their own decisions.[/quote]
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| Are any of you actually faculty members? |
Yes, many here on this board are. It's not a very difficult thing to get here in Korea. However, those of us with limited qualifications (ie - BA or MA, but no Ph.D.) do not enjoy the same status as tenured Koreans with Ph.D.s who are published, but that is to be expected. Nevertheless, those of us who teach uni courses are considered members of the faculty, although our actual titles may vary.
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Also, I thought the international academic ranking for university teachers was:
1. Instructor
2. Assistant Professor
3. Associate Professor
4. Professor
How in the world does someone with merely a B.A., 2 years teaching practice and no record of contributing to the literature become a full blown professor? |
This same system is in place here in Korea as well:
1. kangsa = Instructor
2. jokyosu = Assistant Professor
3. bukyosu = Associate Professor
4. kyosu = Professor
However, it's all semantics really. Most foreign faculty enjoy the title of "kyosu" (professor), but as I said, that does not put them on par with the real professors who have the real titles in the department. For example, my official title is "kangsa" (Lecturer or Instructor), but people don't call you "kangsa", they call you "kyosu". It's kind of like in the military how you never call a Lt.Col. by his full title, you just call him "Colonel", even though technically he is not actually that high up. People call their teachers professors, and even in the department they are referred to as such out of respect, but technically, to have the real title of professor, Korea is much the same as anywhere else -- you have to go up the latter with more than an MA. |
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