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| Is Korea's creepy chemical haze dangerous only to mosquitoes ??? |
| YES, it helps eliminate mosquitoes only. |
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| No, that stuff is BAD for our health too !!! |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| jazblanc77 wrote: |
| ... spraying or bombing is only effective at the pupae/larvae stages of their development which occurs in and around water. The chemicals are meant to stunt their growth so that they are unable to reproduce in their adult form. To kill mature mosquitoes is difficult and practically pointless. The chemicals can cause respiratory problems especially for the very young and old. |
Very interesting to bear in mind ( thanks ).
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| I know this because my father worked in government in Canada's North where mosquitoes are huge and many and he had to decide each year whether it was worth the public health risk to do some mosquito bombing. |
As they do this every year, apparently this is NOT something Korean decision-makers bother take into consideration. Better just to gas the public i guess & let the "health" chips fall where they will. |
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Wisco Kid
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Location: Changwon
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I can't stand the stuff. The truck comes right past my apartment every Monday and Thursday at 5:30am sounding like Darth Vadar's welcome wagon. I set my alarm early on those days so I can shut the windows before it comes.
I've also seen children near my school chasing the toxic-mobile like complete idiots. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:44 pm Post subject: I'm from Winnipeg... |
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We like to call ourselves the Mosquito Capital of the World.
The debate rages on between the more crunchy granola people who don't like to see chemicals poisoning our air, and ordinary people who want to sit outside without constantly doing a handjive. It's much much much worse in Winnipeg- trust me, it's on a flood plain.
The mosquitoes around Winnipeg don't carry malaria, but they have started carrying the West Nile virus, which also kills.
I'd like to see smarter mosquito control. I think having those coils all over the place (especially in produce sections of grocery stores) is overkill, but in environmentally "enlightened" countries, malthion is still used. |
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The Great Toad
Joined: 12 Jun 2004
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ed
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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this is my 2 cents on the mogi truck:
in korea, I get bitten by a lot of mogies. they seem to be crafty fast devious suckers cause when I chase them they always manage to get away and hide.
recently I returned from Canada. over there I must have killed about 2 dozen. they are big and fat and dark black and really slow and they seemed to fly in front of my face and say "here I am, please kill me".
I was never bitten once in Canada.
I suspect the huge cloud of stinky poison they spray here does not kill them; it only makes them stronger and faster.
poison is not good for any living thing. |
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Wisco Kid
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| I suspect the huge cloud of stinky poison they spray here does not kill them; it only makes them stronger and faster |
This might be true. They spray my neighborhood on a regular basis and the skeeters still find their way into my apartment. |
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jazblanc77
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| I suspect the huge cloud of stinky poison they spray here does not kill them; it only makes them stronger and faster |
This might be true. They spray my neighborhood on a regular basis and the skeeters still find their way into my apartment. |
I think you are absolutely right. It's artificial selection. The strongest organisms are being selected as a result of the chemical spray. The result is the quicker, seemingly smarter mosquitoes that are able to evade the defenses of even the best us bug doping, mosquito netting, mogie coiling victims.
If you want to know how effective sraying like this is, do some light research on the construction of the Panama Canal where malaria was a serious hindrance which almost caused the project to fail completely. The spraying didn't work and therefor we got anti-malaria pills. For the spraying/bombing to be effective, it has to be done during the early developmental stages, before the mosquito matures, making it able to mate. Killing mature mosquitoes which have already mated is useless. You have to spray at a time when the spray can inhibit their growth and reproductive ability. This should also be done around water which is where mosquitoes mate. Unless I am mistaken, most of the urban centres of Korea are not submerged in water. Why they spray every little back road with that junk is beyond me. The city administrators have not learned from the experiences of the past application of the mosquito sprays in other countries. What a surprise! |
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tommynomad
Joined: 24 Jul 2004
Location: on the move
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:38 am Post subject: |
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So not only do we both use the hallowed Kermit for our avatar, but we are both Winnipeggers, Kermo?
The malathion debate rages on back home. Except now that Sam Katz is mayor, they just lock up and abuse the activists trying to stop the spray trucks. This summer the head of CROW, Glenda Whiteman, was arrested and thrown in lockup overnight for lying in the path of a malathion truck. She was protesting because she has some pretty wickedly dangerous chemical sensitivities (I know, we used to work in the same school). So what did the cops do to prepare for her arrival? Why, they generously fumigated her cell so it would be free of mosquitos, of course!
West nile may kill a dozen humans a year, but malathion is a carcinogen and a dangerous neurotoxin. I have seen plants wilt upon immediate contact (no, not in a lab) with it, and after 30+ years in Winnipeg, I've never felt any marked difference in the size of the annual summer blitzkrieg of buzzing bloodsuckers. |
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