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mack the knife

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: standing right behind you...
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Kermo,
You're the "Dancing Queen"?
Nice moves!  |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Wow, you kind of got the shaft there, compared to everyone else. Of course, it might make you feel a little less duped if you make it sound like some impressive responsibility that makes you "better" than others.
For your sake, I hope you're getting a lot more than the lower 2.0 scale for all of that work!]
Oh yes, the honorary "teaching certificate" dog and pony show. Got to love how those are dispensed to us so easily, just so we appear legitimate. |
Derreck, I like to teach. Unlike your flaccid position, I enjoy the responsibility, and I am well above the average pay. I wouldn't even apply for a 2.0 job after 9 years. I leave those for you....
I doubt my certificate is anything like your printer-fed A4 paper.
Do you think you are hiding behind Gollum's sock? Don't you have some more poor, snotty-nosed students to humiliate by posting their photo as your avatar? |
Whomever you think I am...
My point is that you think you are a teaching god, and rather than comparing yourself to your own "peers" at your supposed level, you enjoy showing off to others on here who aren't life-long teachers.
Get off of your high-horse. You're just a garbage man with 9 years of experience laughing and pointing at the other garbage men with less experience. Gosh, I would have hoped that by now, you would have been smart enough to open your own school or something, rather than slaving away for Koreans!
Humor us... how much big money do you make? I was an award-winning TV Writer/Producer for 8 years before coming here. I certainly didn't come here for the money, and I'll bet you make about half of what I made doing that back home. Big hairy deal -- you want to talk about money? Who cares?
You want one better than that? Look at other guys on here like Dogbert. He's a lawyer in Korea, and probably triples what you make, Mr. Teacher-god.
Either way you cut it, you're a douchebag.
And don't recall ever posting my student's photo as an avatar.
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manlyboy

Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Kermo,
You're the "Dancing Queen"?
Nice moves! |
Forget the dancing queen. I want to know how "Elvis" is getting on. I wonder if he sang "can't help falling in love with you" for his introductory speech.  |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:55 am Post subject: arrrrgggghhhhhhhh |
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Well I can answer the Elvis question for you. Met with him today and he is doing fine, he likes his new school and co-teacher.
Myself on the other hand
Today we got dragged away from the school, departure time 2 PM drive pretty much from Choam to Osan for a very important meeting with some self important beaurocrat. About 4ish we arrived at the other school(where Elvis is working) wait around for about half an hour for the other teachers to show up....some people had already been waiting an hour or more.
Once everyone is there and wearing their appropriate name tags the meeting started and ended in about 10 minutes. Then we were whisked off to be paraded in front of the District chief of education. After being sat down, then stood up, then paraded around the office being introduced to everyone and their pet dog we were whisked out for a tour of the local farmers market...whee seen one seen em all.
Then another twenty minute drive to a traditional Korean restuarant. Good food and more Korean speaking. Then we get informed that this will be a weekly meeting every Wednesday. We left at 2 PM and I got back home by 8:30 thats six and a half hours of my time wasted. Well technically only 4 hours wasted because between 8:30 and 4:30 is their time.
Next week when we go I will pull out my contract and tell them that any time outside of the 8:30-4:30 will be overtime and that includes travel time or I will not attend any more of these ego stroking meetings. I had hoped that I had put the 'your time means nothing' crap behind me when I left hogwan hell.
To summarize: ARRGGGHHHHHH |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| Gollum wrote: |
| I am Derrek's 'Slim Shady' |
Dude, you brought up money, not me. I guess I should have sent my knee-jerk reaction (2nd post) to your pseudonym's 'tough-guy' stance as a PM. My bad to all if I looked like a jerk.
My first post was anything but comparative, save the fact that I didn't go through the training.
An award winning writer....hehe...please tell me...what did you write? Jekyl & Hyde?
I didn't brag about anything, just refuted your (Gollum/Derrek's) idiocy, and certainly don't laugh at anyone. Except you, that is.
I often wonder why you even log in as "Gollum", when everyone knows who you really are.
I guess you need a pseudonym to talk tough.
We are all "garbagemen"? Wow.....I've been called worse things by better people, so.....ehhh......
Enjoy what you do Derrek (which is very little)...seems you like slamming people for their reaction to your provocation. Please re-read my first post and see if there is anything you speak of.
The funniest thing...I can't seem to find a thread where Derrek and Gollum have posted together. I guess they just magically avoid each other. Or they are just such different 'personalities', they would never cross threads.
This will be the last time I miss an opportunity to ignore you. Both of you...  |
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canukteacher
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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First week went ok. My co-teacher is young, and she really isn't muct of a teacher, but I guess that will improve over time.
Few things that I am finding difficult:
The nine to five routine. I had hoped that there would be some flexibility,. but it seems that they are very anal about the hours. If you want to leave the school for any reason (even during lunchtime) you must fill out a form.
Not sure when a person can do any banking, since all the banks are closed
on Saturday.
Lunch. Having lunch provided is nice, but it would be nice if it was an option. The thought of eating lunch with the P. VP, and head teahcers for an entire year is a little depressiing............haha (but hey cuts down on the food bills!)
No English classroom: Going from class to class is a bit much. Plus, the students don't have the opportunity to put their work on the walls etc. Some of the rooms are set up so that alot of students do not face the teacher! When I commented on this I was told that the seats could not be changed! Have to work on this one.........kids facing a wall or window are not going to learn much.
Teachers and students are very nice though, and I am sure all of these things will work themselves out, and hey what's a year when your having fun..........haha
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| The seating arrangements can be fantastic in blocks. It's really good for team games, and stuff like that. When I was teaching a lesson on buildings, I made each block a building and had the students guide me through the "city" Use a little creativity and remember- you're a guest in someone elses classroom in this situation. |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Kermo,
You're the "Dancing Queen"?
Nice moves!  |
You're too kind.
Anyone (other than Elvis) have any claims to fame (or notoriety)?
I met some lovely people at that conference, but I can't figure out who anybody is on this board. |
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mack the knife

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: standing right behind you...
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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So far, in most of my classes I am indeed a "teaching assisstant", which suits me fine. Basically I'm an English mouthpiece, and it works well with the Korean teachers and students. However, I've been saddled with one teacher who is, how shall we say, less-than-effective at classroom control. Frankly, it's a bummer. I don't mind taking charge of discipline in my own classroom, but with somebody else's runts? Problem is, the teacher is relatively new at this school (4 months in) and I guess she hasn't earned the respect of the students yet. Too bad for her. She has to deal with them all day long. Fortunately for me, I only have to see them once a week.
So, it looks like I will have to assume the role of disciplinarian in this particular classroom. The biggest problem is incessant chatting and noise level, so I plan on buying a bell (cow bell?) which I'll ring when the going gets rough.  |
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manlyboy

Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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My main co-teacher is an excellent disciplinarian. The problem is, she enjoys it just a tad too much. She does zero prep, doesn't like kids, and really doesn't like being a teacher!
Ummm, apart from that, she's pretty cool. In dier need of a vacation maybe. |
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canukteacher
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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I only have 1 co-teacher, and she is young and loves to teach. I do more of the assistant thing as well. But I am not adverse to helping her with the discipline if need be. Most of the kids are great, but there are always a few that have to be reigned in.
I teach a special class and a teachers class, which keep from dying of boredom.
My biggest challenge is getting used to the 9-5 routine. It feels a bit like prison.
I think I've settled in, and we are just rolling along.
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Teufelswacht
Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| How many of you EPIK or GEPIK teachers out there have male Korean co-teachers? Is there any difference between male Korean and female Korean teachers in establishing working relationships? Just wondering. Thanks. |
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Seoul Skye
Joined: 28 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Bonding with your co-teachers: In 1996-98, when I taught in EPIK, I talked 4 of my co-teachers into attending a KOTESOL conference with me and the rest of the year sailed by quite smoothly.
They were impressed that I cared enough to spend my own money for professional development and they enjoyed the conference. We ended up co-writing some effective lesson plans based on materials and sessions presented at the conference.
The following year, the vice principal allocated enough money so that we could attend the conference and only pay for our meals. |
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Pangit
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Location: Puet mo.
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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As far as bonding goes, it seems that homosocial relationships are the easiest to initiate and maintain in my school. Granted, the male teachers far outnumber the women teachers here, but I've noticed that the female teachers have their own group just as the male teachers do. I co-teach with the respective teachers of each grade for the parts of the day that are designated as following the 7th national curriculum for teaching English in public schools. The grades that don't have any curricular English are 1 and 2. The 1st grade teacher is a woman and the 2nd grade teacher is a man. I found that the 1st grade teacher is less accessible when it comes to discussing lesson plans and such. The 2nd grade teacher easily volunteers information and has even given me full control of a class at one point.
I've taken up calligraphy under the 3rd grade teacher (a great opportunity because he's a famous calligrapher - so I gather from the conversations that we've had). The 3rd grade teacher is male
The 4th grade teacher, also male, likes to practice his small talk with me.
The principal often visits me - at least once a day - to check up on how I am (I've been sick, and he's been giving me lots of tomatoes).
The easiest exchanges I've had have been with the men, but I think the law of averages would apply - out of the six grades at the school (excluding kindergarten), five grades are taught by men.
I had to get to know the school nurse, who is the only woman at school willing to talk to me about non-educational matters, out of necessity - I've had a problem physically adjusting to Korea, what with this cough I've had for the past three weeks. Turns out she's studying English after school, and my being an English teacher has become a good reason for us to maintain the working relationship. She approaches me when she has something to discuss about learning English.
The men have been more easy-going with me, but I haven't exactly made much of an effort to strenghten the ties between myself and the women teachers. I'd only be working with one, anyway. |
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CanadaCommando

Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Location: People's Republic of C.C.
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Just a question for all you Gepik folk:
Does your school term start in September, or did you guys come in second semester? Just curious, because my school term started in March, and thought that most others did too.
Maybe a difference between Elementary/Secondary? Or a regional difference? |
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