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A bad experience at the local pizza shop
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't gotten the telephone down yet, but all I do is walk into my pizza place and they know just what to give me. Pepparoni with cheese crust for 9.000 won! 20 minutes later I leave with a great pizza!

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rNS



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Macheon Dong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, if it makes you all feel any better, this has happened to us several times (and my Korean wife ordered).

Our solution?

Well, after finding a place that we liked (taste-wise), I had a little meeting with the manager and explained that I will be a loyal patron (weekly orders, you know, 'Monday-ish Night Football' and all), and my order will never change. So memorise our order.

So, everytime I would call, the pizzaria would know it was me and what to expect....it got to the point our phone chat would include:

<ring ring ring>

Lee, Seok-min's Pizza: Hello?
Ryst: Yes, it's Ryst
LSMP: Ah, hello!
Ryst: One pie please.
LSMP: Yes.

<20 minutes later, a perfect meat-lovers pizza with less than normal cheese and double pizza sauce at my doorstep>.



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Excellent, that's really the way you have to go if you want consistancy ...



But as Oscar Wilde told us 'consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative'...
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

However, is not Korea the Hub of Asia?
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iiicalypso



Joined: 13 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found that the perfect solution was just to teach the staff at the local pizza store English. I would just stop in every day and say hello, and before too long they understood English well enough to give me what I asked for. My students should learn so well...
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: A bad experience at the local pizza shop Reply with quote

hadeshorn wrote:
live in Hae Bong Chon


That's what caused the problem in the first place! Eating there, let alone LIVING there is a set up for disaster and dissapointment! I still can't figure out why hagwon owners set their workers' housing up there...but...wait, actually I can...cheap azzes
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sparkx wrote:
Ryst wrote:
Well, after finding a place that we liked (taste-wise), I had a little meeting with the manager and explained that I will be a loyal patron (weekly orders, you know, 'Monday-ish Night Football' and all), and my order will never change. So memorise our order.

So, everytime I would call, the pizzaria would know it was me and what to expect....it got to the point our phone chat would include:

<ring ring ring>

Lee, Seok-min's Pizza: Hello?
Ryst: Yes, it's Ryst
LSMP: Ah, hello!
Ryst: One pie please.
LSMP: Yes.

<20 minutes later, a perfect meat-lovers pizza with less than normal cheese and double pizza sauce at my doorstep>.


!Shoosh

Ryst - makes his own pizza now Helmut


I got that beat. Last year, through serious trial and error, I found an amazing, Mom and Pop pizza place near Jamsil. I started hitting it at least once a week and was their only non-korean customer.
I would be walking home and decide that I wanted a pizza...I'd call 'em up and the conversation was:

Best Pizza: "Best Pizza blah blah shish bloom blah"
Me: "Hello"
Best Pizza: Neeeeeeeh

20 minutes later my pizza would be at my door (bulgogi w/o corn)


Had a similar set-up too. They even spoke English at the pizza shop, so I'd just call, they'd be all "Welcome to Pizza Etang" in Korean, and I'd just say "Hello" and they were on it.
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Gregarious Monk



Joined: 13 Sep 2004
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: A bad experience at the local pizza shop Reply with quote

hadeshorn wrote:
So anyway I am deciding what to have for dinner tonight because im kinda too lazy to cook.

So there is a pizza shop at the bottom of my street and I decide to get a small pizza for myself. I look up at the choices and order a pepperoni pizza. There is an image of Pepperoni and Cheese. Thats whats usually on a pepperoni pizza.

Anyway I pay my 8k and go for a walk till its ready. I come back 10 mins later asking where my pizza is. The pizza guy opens the oven and looks at a pizza with a What the *beep* look on his face and gestures to the Ajuma.

She comes over and is startled for a split second and then recovers. She had made a combination pizza instead of a Pepperoni pizza. But she tried to pass it off as a Pepporoni pizza because the Combination pizza had like 2 bits on it.

I am like No *beep* way is that what I ordered. I point to the picture above of what a Pepperoni pizza is spose to look like. With the cheese and the Pepperoni. Not with olives and onions and mushrooms. She then proceeds to say that the pizza up on the wall is for REGULAR size pepperoni. When you order small size, this is what it looks like. I am like *beep*! I pointed to the combination pizza picture and said thats what you made.

She then proceeds to start pulling off the offending toppings and PUTS THEM BACK INTO THE INGREDIENT BINS. I am getting majorly angry right now and saying that aint gonna *beep* cut it. Make me a new Pepperoni pizza. If anything it should be free because you *beep* my order.

So they made me another pizza and at the end the ajuma looks at me saying "sorry sorry" but she didnt mean it and I sure as hell aint going back.

For the people that live in Hae Bong Chon, its the pizza place up from Phillies and opposite the PFCB.

Ewwww


Awesome storytelling, hades. A complaint so entertaining that the story has more value than the lesson of where not to buy pizza.
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casey's moon



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is almost as good as the Donut one. Almost....

Buy an oven, make it at home.

I did.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote:
Koreans don't know pizza, that's a fact. The little local all Korean joints are universally tragic. Only the bigger chains come close to cutting the mustard and even then it's touch and go.
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Italians say the same of North American style pizza. Have some Italian pizza and you'll understand what I mean. There are a few restaurants in Seoul that serve authentic Italian pizza.
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mog



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one in Cheonan Zyf?

Ate there tonight. I like the pizza they make. Much better prices for same quality pizza than in the US.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LISTEN, BUSTER -- YOU'LL EAT THIS CORN IF WE HAVE TO SHOVE....

I guess most Koreans really like sweet corn on their pizza. Call me bizarre, but I'm not a huge fan. It's not outright offensive, as I quite like sweet corn. It's just a bit off-putting and out of place on a pizza, AFAIC.

By the same token, I don't like pineapple on pizza either, or anything that even leans in the direction of sweet. And that most definitely goes for sliced red & green maraschino cherries. (Yes, I've even gotten pizzas in Korea with those on them.)

So my problem was with a local pizza delivery place and their bewildering inability NOT to put corn on my pizza (unless I order something really humdrum, like "plain old cheese" or "pepperoni and that's all").

I'd call in the order and choose from their various combination-style pizzas, all of which contain this, that & the other ingredient, AND CORN.

Me: "Hi, I'm that weird foreigner -- the one who doesn't like corn on the pizza. Remember me?"
Them: "Yes, hello! Yeah, we know. 'No corn'... Do you still live at [and they read off my address]?"
Me: "Yes, I do. Tonight we'd like one large Combination #3, and make sure that's without corn. Oh, and some garlic bread."
Them: "One large Combination #3, no corn, and one order of garlic bread."
Me: "Right. Last time you put corn on the pizza. I asked you not to, but you did."
Them: "Sorry, sorry...."
Me: "So I want you to repeat my order again."
Them: "Large Combination #3, no corn, one garlic bread."

The pizza arrives. I snatch it out of the delivery boy's hands even before I pay him, open the lid, and we all look down at these clumps of coagulated stringy cheese and sweet corn.

Happened every time, and there was no other place around that delivered. One time I thought I had succeeded, but then found the corn under a layer of extra cheese (which I hadn't ordered). Eventually, I only ordered pepperoni and then paid for extra toppings. Waste of money. Once I made the fatal mistake of ordering their "calzone" and got back this near-inedible thing (well, our dog liked it) with a crust that had this shiny thin coating of sugar glazing on it. Shocked (where's the emoticon of me on all fours retching like a dog?).

When Pizza Hut (never a big favourite of mine) opened a branch nearby, our entire neighbourhood wept tears of joy.

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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOREIGNER WANTS HIS STICKERS, AND HE WANTS 'EM NOW!!

(Okay, this is and isn't a pizza story.)

Many years ago, the office where I worked (all Korean staff except me) would order pizza occasionally, particularly when we were racing to meet a deadline and time was tight.

We'd always order from the same place, and they'd give us these little stickers with each order to get a free pizza. The more stickers collected, the bigger free pizza you get. They would include 1 sticker with a regular-size pizza, 2 stickers with large, and 3 stickers with family-size.

One time when they delivered the pizza, and we couldn't find any stickers. We discovered this after paying them and after they'd left. The stickers were always taped to the box, so it's unlikely that they fell off along the way. We were especially disappointed, because those missing stickers would have given us enough for a free family-size pizza next time.

One of the Korean staff, Mr. Chun, rang the place to explain & complain. My Korean ability then wasn't what it is now, but I did manage to pick up a few bits & pieces from his side of the conversation ("...something-something, waygook-in.... yadda, yadda waygook-in! ...") which I found puzzling and slightly disturbing.

Mr. Chun: Oh, no problem. Everything okay. They bring more stickers now.
Me: Now? Well, good job. Pity they have to come all the way back just for that. You seemed to be on the phone with them quite a long time... And what was all the talk about foreigners?
Mr. Chun: No problem, no problem. Everything okay.

But that wasn't good enough for me. I was determined to understand what he'd said to the pizza place. And it didn't help, either, that my pursuing the matter was causing a lot of back & forth glances between the Korean staff. After a few minutes of dodging and weaving, Mr. Chun finally fessed up. No, he hadn't really told them they forgot the stickers.

Me: Why not?
Mr. Chun: (a bit flustered and snappish by then) Because of course they'd say we were lying! No Korean ever believe that. (The Korean staff nods in unanimous agreement with this assumption.)
Me: Really? Huh... Well, then how did you manage to persuade them to give us more stickers? And what was all the "waygook-in" discussion?
Mr. Chun: Oh, I told them you good customer.
Me: ME??!! Why did you even mentioned me?
Mr. Chun: I told them you best customer, they better make foreigner happy customer. So they bringing stickers now.
Me: ME!!?? Oh shiite, Mr. Chun! You said that about me?! You badgered them to send that poor kid all the way back in the rain just to give us stickers because of me? Not because they screwed up with the tickets before (yeah, best not even mention that old canard, right?), but because the "high & mighty foreigner" demands special treatment and free stickers?!
Well for fu....s sake! We'll be lucky if they don't spit in our pizzas from now on. (*Shakes head, walks out to have a smoke*)

What a lovely way to breed contempt toward foreigners, huh? Rolling Eyes

Like at the restaurant two nights ago. A very loud, drunken, but fun-loving group of office workers start whooping it up in the room beside where me & my girlfriend are eating. Another customer, a woman who's been staring at us since we got there, notices that we're having some trouble talking above the rising din. This woman gets up, walks past our table without saying a word, sticks her head inside the room with the noisy party, and shouts at them all to pipe down so the foreigner can enjoy his meal in peace! Shocked

Some guys from the loud party then march toward us, all red-faced, smiling and apologising (with soju glasses in their hands). The expressions of others from their group, though, looked irked and disgruntled. And who couldn't blame them?

Dying of embarrassment, yet incensed because I hadn't done anything wrong, I immediately ordered a few more bottles of baeksae-ju for the party group. My girlfriend, looking to set the score straight with everyone who's now staring at me, tells the woman to stop making trouble and mind her own business.

Fun stuff.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I feel the pain of all of you who have suffered at pizza places and you have my sympathy. Cherries and corn do not belong on a pizza but pepperoni does when it has been ordered. But you have not truly suffered in spite of what you think.

Back in my newbie days, I went mountain climbing with two of my also newbie co-workers. We spent a good day out in the fresh air and were ready to eat when we came down. Not being into bon-daegi, we decided to catch the bus home and eat at the brand spanking new pizza parlor that had just opened down the street from our apartments.

We walk in the door to find ourselves the only customers. The staff all rush over big grins and bows and three people take us to our table. We point to our order and also ask for 3 bottles of beer ( in the only actual Korean we could speak at the time).

Twenty minutes later two waitresses and the male manager bring over a beautiful pizza, set it on the table and bow several times. My friends and I dig in. First bite. We stare at each other. A second tentative bite. More looks. We start pulling the darn thing apart trying to figure out what is on it that tastes so bad. We find nothing that shouldn't be there except corn. Then I spy a big can of ketchup on the counter by the oven.

No tomato sauce. Just ketchup.

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!

Now we knew why the place was empty.

It closed in a couple of months.

(We settled for Lotteria hamburgers.)
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am the opposite of most people here.

I love sweet stuff on my pizzas
Give me sweet potato and pineapple and I would be happy as larry.

My fav pizza is the aptly named Sweetie Pizza from Mr. Pizza.

Sparkx wrote:
Best Pizza: "Best Pizza blah blah shish bloom blah"
Me: "Hello"
Best Pizza: Neeeeeeeh

This made me laugh. i can just imagine the conversation Very Happy
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mog wrote:
The one in Cheonan Zyf?

Ate there tonight. I like the pizza they make. Much better prices for same quality pizza than in the US.


That's the one. Glad you're giving them business.
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