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Pulgasori

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: En Route to Daejeon
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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60k, given the current upswing of the CAN$, would be just over $46,000 US. I'm not sure what the CAN$/Pound swings at, maybe $2.50 on the CAN-dollar. Been a while since I've made the CAN$/won swap, I'd guess 52 million won. Again, that's before taxation.
I don't think it's all that uncommon for a BBA graduating with distinction/honours (fingers crossed) to command a decent salary. Many of my fellow classmates who've graduated over the last 2 years are doing quite well in their young careers.
It's closer to 2/3 realistically, but I fully understand your skepticism.
As the thread title might indicate, I would expect some to doubt my rational.
| Swiss James wrote: |
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Excuse my ignorance but how much is 60,000 canadian Dollars in US Dollars, UK Pounds or Won?
The answer to this will aid my enjoyment of this thread no end....... |
it's almost 26k in english money. I reckon you should definitely take the hotel job, it's good money, and would be very handy for someone who wants to travel. |
That's true, somewhere down the line I'd like to work my way across Europe if possible. Hotel's are probably the most likely employers if I were to do it.
Still, I think even just having completed the 250+ hour internship may help me in the hunt though....at least a bit. |
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Rather_Dashing
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Everyone I've seen people graduate with distinction or better, in big money fields like accounting and finance, get offered, at the most, 50k a year to start. 60-80k to start is when you graduate with an MBA. Trust me, you lucked out. Go to Korea if you have the itch to travel, and get that part of your life over with (hell, most people only do it for a year). But realize you are taking a slight financial penalty to do so. Who knows, you may meet and marry a hot Kgirl while you're there. There isn't an overabundance of fat dogs like there are in the US/Canada there. Hell, it's impossible to find a bra that's bigger than a C cup. Being tired makes your grammar go to ship. |
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Pulgasori

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: En Route to Daejeon
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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The money isn't what I'd be concerned with losing...I have a lifetime to make up the money I may be passing up now. It's the legit experience. There's nothing wrong with me working the ESL route in Korea, (and possibly a year in Japan or China afterwards), but it'll definetly be a bit of a hit to the ol' resume.
And I hear ya with those Korean women....a fun game I enjoyed playing with friends on lengthy bus-rides in the city was 'Spot the Fat Korean', given certain qualifying criteria. Needless to say, the scores were never that high.  |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, this doesn't have much to do with your specific situation, but it's good general advice. If you are single, have no debt, don't smoke and don't drink all that much, pretty much any salary is a lot.
The second time I lived in Japan I made about 2.5 million won a month, paid 770 000 won a month for rent, and saved up 11 million won in eight months because I didn't buy anything big and have no debt. The lightest aircraft need but a slight push to become airborne. |
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agraham

Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Location: Daegu, Korea
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Pulgasori wrote: |
And I hear ya with those Korean women....a fun game I enjoyed playing with friends on lengthy bus-rides in the city was 'Spot the Fat Korean', given certain qualifying criteria. Needless to say, the scores were never that high.  |
Those days are coming to an end with the continued McDonaldsing of Korea. My students are probably every bit as chunky as those of similar age back home.
The twenty and thirty somethings definately have the look tho. |
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CanadaCommando

Joined: 13 Feb 2004 Location: People's Republic of C.C.
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:45 am Post subject: |
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60k, given the current upswing of the CAN$, would be just over $46,000 US. I'm not sure what the CAN$/Pound swings at, maybe $2.50 on the CAN-dollar. Been a while since I've made the CAN$/won swap, I'd guess 52 million won. Again, that's before taxation.
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Hey...Trade ya!
Seriously, Korea can be cool but you give up on that sorta job, you ARE crazy. Job market in Canada as it is, should be on your HANDS AND KNEES begging for a job that good. You pass on that now, you probably wont get an offer near as good on return. ESPECIALLY when you have the offer as a result of connections....probably won't come up like that again. And ESL really is NOT a strong point on any resume (with a few exceptions) as you mentioned.
Korea's not going anywhere. Will be here in a year. Very least, try the job out for a year-you hate, jump on the computer, throw out your resume, and fly out within the week. |
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dull artist

Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Location: Osan
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| royjones wrote: |
| You are crazy (just joking). Take the hotel job, and come to korea on vacation. It is a no brainer. |
I couldn't agree more. I turned down a really good job to come here and now I give myself a swift kick in the face each morning before I go to work. |
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Rather_Dashing
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Pul,
In China, you will be treated like an alien. And you have to deal with that internet filter (no american news 4 you! It is the work of the capitalist pigs!). And you'll be SAVING like $300-400 a month (your salary will be $100-200 more than that). And, Chinese women aren't hot. And, few Chinese people speak English. No thanks.
In Japan, the cost of living is a gazillion jabillion dollars. Good luck saving more than $600 a month, unless you're on the JET gravy train. But the women speak English, are immoral, and easy. And pretty. Rar.
Resume "hit"? I hope you don't mean that pejoratively. A year of ESL is a good thing to have on a resume.
Dull artist, sounds like you haven't had your rooster smoked by a hot kgirl yet. It makes it all worthwhile... |
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dull artist

Joined: 20 Jun 2004 Location: Osan
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| No, actually my girlfriend is pretty proficient in "rooster smoking," but if that's the only draw to come to a country, then I'd rather just smoke my own rooster. Actually, that doesn't sound half bad... |
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Pulgasori

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: En Route to Daejeon
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:02 am Post subject: |
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Pul,
In China, you will be treated like an alien. And you have to deal with that internet filter (no american news 4 you! It is the work of the capitalist pigs!). And you'll be SAVING like $300-400 a month (your salary will be $100-200 more than that). And, Chinese women aren't hot. And, few Chinese people speak English. No thanks.
In Japan, the cost of living is a gazillion jabillion dollars. Good luck saving more than $600 a month, unless you're on the JET gravy train. But the women speak English, are immoral, and easy. And pretty. Rar.
Resume "hit"? I hope you don't mean that pejoratively. A year of ESL is a good thing to have on a resume.
Dull artist, sounds like you haven't had your rooster smoked by a hot kgirl yet. It makes it all worthwhile... |
I didn't mean to imply that teaching ESL won't help any resume, just that (unfortunatly) the hotel gig, especially if I stay here in Nanaimo, would probably look a lot spiffier. I guess that's largely dependent on the perspective of whoever's reading the resume though.
The money saving factor is one of the main reasons I'm choosing Korea over Japan for my first year overseas. You mention the JET program as a 'gravy train'.....I've heard many good things about it before, but is it really that much different than a typcal ESL job in Japan? I say this because I'm being encouraged to look into the JET program from my International Studies Co-ordinatior, as apparently they do a fair bit of recruiting/hiring from immediate graduates from my school.
I'd still sooner go to Japan after a year in Korea (if I'm still up for it). Pay off my 12k student loan first, then go to Japan without the burden of having to save a great deal of my money. |
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