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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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 Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:42 am Post subject: What do you do in your 3rd year? |
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| I am finishing my second year in Korea in a few months. I am planning on staying for another year. I was wondering if most people continue to teach at hagwons or move on to universities. I would prefer a university position, as the kids and the parents are starting to wear on me. But I don't have a master's, only a bachelor's. I do have 2 years experience. Is it possible to get a good university position. I would like some feedback from some fellow non-newbies. Thank you. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:58 am Post subject: Re: What do you do in your 3rd year? |
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| zappadelta wrote: |
| I am finishing my second year in Korea in a few months. I am planning on staying for another year. I was wondering if most people continue to teach at hagwons or move on to universities. I would prefer a university position, as the kids and the parents are starting to wear on me. But I don't have a master's, only a bachelor's. I do have 2 years experience. Is it possible to get a good university position. I would like some feedback from some fellow non-newbies. Thank you. |
2 years? You're still a newbie.
Plenty possible to get a good university gig with your qualifications. |
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| My 3rd year was some time in the last century. I think it may still be hard to get a uni job w/o an MA. Is this not true? I have an MA but have not tried for a uni job yet....maybe in the future. |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| I am not a newbie, I just don't talk to anyone. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| You might want to consider public school teaching. Seems like conditions are on the rise in that sector. Middle or highschool would give you a break from the kiddies, & with your experience you'd likely find it easy enough to handle. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| kangnamdragon wrote: |
| I think it may still be hard to get a uni job w/o an MA. Is this not true? |
Not true. More difficult but not hard.
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| I have an MA but have not tried for a uni job yet....maybe in the future. |
Future my ass. The sooner you get in the university system the sooner you can start moving from the mediocre ones to the good ones.
I've been talking with friends about working at universities and working at hagwons and it's a different Korean that we're working. Big holidays, time to plan lessons and take up a hobby or two. With an MA you're halfway there. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:01 am Post subject: |
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I'm also an MA-holder who hasnt looked hard yet at teaching in universities. Havent needed to as I'm happy in my work & my benefits have grown annually to match or exceed those of most of my friends who work in uni's. Its not the only game in town. In fact many of my uni acquaintances who thought they had it sweet seem stressed these days about job security, increased workload, & pressure to work during their vaunted long vacations.
No need to trot out the customary boasts about your situation, Beave. Yours is a rare position, perhaps once common to people with the right connections, but rapidly disappearing. Your having it is your good luck, good on ya. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 7:11 am Post subject: Re: What do you do in your 3rd year? |
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I too am near the end of my second year. I've decided to sign on for a third year at my hagwon because I'm enjoying it a lot and the working conditions are great: small classes, none before 3 p.m., weekends off, great apartment, nice location. The students aren't wearing on me yet.
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| the kids and the parents are starting to wear on me. |
The parents?? I've been complaining that I never hear from them. I've only met one, and she was in an adult class of mine last year.
Good luck whatever. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:40 pm Post subject: public |
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I am in my 3'rd year and am at a public school. The difference between a public school and a hogwan is night and day.
you are treated as a professional.
Curriculum is set
students are well behaved
hours are great
good benefits |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the info everyone. Where can I get some info concerning public schools? That seems like the way to go for me right now. I don't recall seeing any posts for this on the job board. Maybe there are, not sure. |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| schwa wrote: |
| No need to trot out the customary boasts about your situation, Beave. Yours is a rare position, perhaps once common to people with the right connections, but rapidly disappearing. Your having it is your good luck, good on ya. |
But but but. . .
I know about 50 people with the same sort of thing I've got -- granted, most of them are co-workers but I have several friends in other universities who have a similar deal. As far as teaching contracts in Korea go I only know one place better than mine (�ܴ�-- the campus that's not in Seoul) but I know quite a few that are similar to mine.
I don't see how it can get better than 5 months vacation, a 12-hour base work week, plenty of opportunities for overtime, and a captive student class (mandatory credit).
Maybe jobs like mine are not the easiest to get but I'm pulling a Leonardo Di Caprio on the bow of Titanic on the happiness scale and I think everybody should try to get a gig like this. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Good for you man, just recognize that's it's above average and not attainable for everyone. Once again, good for you, enjoy your situation and feel free to pass it on to me when you're done. |
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the_beaver
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Anybody, but not everybody. That's the distinction I was trying to make. But good call on encouraging people. |
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