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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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The japanese never changed the spelling.
before Japanese occupation Korea, was called Chosun.
The japanese retained the name (or maybe Josun) during occupation.
Its just a nationlistic thing stirred up by the anti-Japanese and American wings. |
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Sooke
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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I think it should be called:
Beautifull and happyness country
NB: Poor spelling on purpose |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| just because wrote: |
The japanese never changed the spelling.
before Japanese occupation Korea, was called Chosun.
The japanese retained the name (or maybe Josun) during occupation.
Its just a nationlistic thing stirred up by the anti-Japanese and American wings. |
Like I wrote, found the picture of an 1895 "Korea Post" stamp. 1895 was before the invasion. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Like I wrote, found the picture of an 1895 "Korea Post" stamp. 1895 was before the invasion. |
Before what invasion? I think the last time Japan invaded Korean was under Hideyoshi in the late 1400s. |
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shakuhachi
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Before what invasion? I think the last time Japan invaded Korean was under Hideyoshi in the late 1400s. |
True! You wont find any section in the encyclopedia talking about a 'Japanese invasion of Korea' in the 19th or 20th centuries because there was none. |
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CalifasGirl
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: Southern California
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| and the others are all gimme's, not strictly anglo origin |
Neither is "Korea"  |
"Korea" was given to us by Anglos. We call our country "Hankook," not Korea. "Korea" comes from the word "Koryo" from the Koryo Dynasty just as the North Koreans call their country "Chosun" from the Chosun Dynasty.
Corea is the proper spelling in Spanish. It's probably because the majority of the World Cup participants are Latin countries that Koreans want to change it to how the Latin countries spell it. (Also that would shoot them ahead of Japan to boot.) You must remember that Koreans take three languages: Korean, English, and an elective language. Usually German is the language of choice. Since there are so many German speakers in Korea, it's not surprising that Koreans chose a "K" over a hard "C."
FYI, Myanmar is now the new name for "Burma." Check all the newer maps, Burma has been stricken out. Language is elastic and forever changing. Don't get hung up on such terms. RELAX...
Liz |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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batman
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Oh so close to where I want to be
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Real Reality"]CalifasGirl wrote,
"'Korea' was given to us by Anglos. We call our country 'Hankook,' not Korea."
Hankook?
Does this name remind of you of something?
Yes. It remind me of the word 'kook'.
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batman
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Oh so close to where I want to be
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="CalifasGirl
"Korea" was given to us by Anglos. ...
Liz[/quote]
"us"????
Since when is "Liz" a Korean name? |
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CalifasGirl
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: Southern California
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject: don't have hangul characters on my keyboard |
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Hankook?
Does this name remind of you of something? Do government representatives of the "Hankook" use this term on the Web? Why not? Most Web searches indicate "Hankook" to be associated with tires. |
Geez, I am in the US. I don't have hangul characters on my keyboard. I'm not good with romanizing it. Hankook, hangook, hanguk, hankuk... Whatever... I'm doing the best I can with Arabic letters. If I had hangul, I'd spell it correctly. So literal... Relax and chill out, dude.
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CalifasGirl
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: Southern California
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| batman wrote: |
"us"????
Since when is "Liz" a Korean name? |
Since I'm in the US, I find most of the comments on this board disturbing, mostly racist. I'm going to take the high road and assume that people are either joking around and trying to play on words or just completely ignorant.
"Liz" is my nickname. My first name is Elizabeth, given to me by my parents who are both Korean. I'm 1.5 generation Korean American. I know it must be a new one to some of you, but there are Koreans in America with English names. In fact, there have been Koreans living in the US since 1895. Some of us don't even speak Korean. |
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shakuhachi
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm doing the best I can with Arabic letters. If I had hangul, I'd spell it correctly. So literal... Relax and chill out, dude. |
Arabic letters? My dear, we use roman letters. We do use Arabic numerals, though. I dont know, but I think I can feel a bit of the 'kyopo chip' coming from you. |
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Sooke
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
Location: korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Koreans call their country Dae Han Min Guk, or hangook (however you want to romanize it.) I'm not sure, though, whether Anglo's FORCED "Korea" on the Koreans. I'm sure if they went to the UN back in the day and said, "Our country is called Hangook", I don't think the UN would have said "Uhhh, no. We like Korea, so you're stuck with it." So, someone (and I'm going to assume it was a Korean) along the way must've decided on using Korea internationally.
Just like Germany. They call themselves Deutschland, and the people call themselves Deutsch. (Not to be confused with the Dutch, who are from the Netherlands). Oh yeah, but we gave them the name Germany, because we won the war!!! We must've won the war, cuz' I don't speak German! |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:17 am Post subject: |
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CalifasGirl,
Have you noticed how many Koreans want to leave Korea? Why? What makes your parents stay in America? When do they plan to return to Korea? Will they live in Korea after they retire? Are you aware of the discrimination and racism in Korea?
[EDITORIALS] Without hope, an exodus
Murky political struggles, an unstable society, a failing economy, a social atmosphere that treats the wealthy as criminals, and anti-business sentiment and regulations make people frustrated. Therefore, people are turning their backs on their country or are preparing to do so.
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200407/27/200407272207153409900090109011.html
"Highly Educated Work Force in 20-40 Age Bracket is Leaving"
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004083124608
Immigration fair
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200309/08/200309080122117709900090509051.html
Defector blasts swell of anti-U.S. feelings
"There is a move to cast the North Korean dictator in a positive light," he said, while the United States, an important ally, has become the subject of widespread opprobrium. "At this rate," he said, "South Korea can turn into a base of anti-Americanism."
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200212/13/200212130952488569900090209021.html
Discrimination
From personal experience it appears that most Koreans have not taken the time nor had the opportunity to know any Americans, Korean or otherwise, and that their views on any race, let alone "American" (who stereotypically are WHITE, never Asian like myself*), are a result of cultural ignorance. A close Korean-American friend, who considers himself more Korean than American, once described Korea as having a "victim mentality." Koreans cry foul at any oppportunity, leaving most situations muddled with overly emotional sentiment rather than the clarity of cool-headed logic
*Having taught English conversation, there have been too many students that have withdrawn from this writer's class simply because of the color of their instructor's skin. This Korean-American has personally experienced the deep discrimination/racism of Korea, and it is painful.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200212/200212250002.html |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| CalifasGirl wrote: |
"Korea" was given to us by Anglos. We call our country "Hankook," not Korea. "Korea" comes from the word "Koryo" from the Koryo Dynasty just as the North Koreans call their country "Chosun" from the Chosun Dynasty.
Corea is the proper spelling in Spanish. It's probably because the majority of the World Cup participants are Latin countries that Koreans want to change it to how the Latin countries spell it. (Also that would shoot them ahead of Japan to boot.) You must remember that Koreans take three languages: Korean, English, and an elective language. Usually German is the language of choice. Since there are so many German speakers in Korea, it's not surprising that Koreans chose a "K" over a hard "C." |
This topic deserves to be split off into its own entity.
Anyway. . . Who cares where the term "Korea'" came from? It's how we say it in English. Nobody complains about �̱� or ȣ�� not being anything like the English.
Corea with a C is the proper spelling in all Latin languages. Korea with a K is the proper spelling in all (I think all) Germanic languages. When Koreans are using Spanish or French they should spell it with a C and when using English or Scandinavian with a K.
Koreans take three languages in theory but I have it on good authority that German is not the elective language of choice nor has it been since the early 80s (Chinese and Japanese are fighthing it out over that position). And, I don't care what you've heard, there are not that many speakers of German in Korea. Hell, there are few enough speakers of English and it's the language flavor of the day. |
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