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Mankind



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that there are 3 big winners in the present market. People that can get work fast.

Young women (for reason already stated)
Kids right out of school (low pay, easy to manipulate for a year)
Over 40 crowd (people expect them to bitch less and to just do their job. probobaly right)

The lsat 2 have been popular for a while. The first one is the big change I see. Plus man can kyopo's make a killing now if they speak a little Korean.

HAND Smile
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coolsage



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Directors and owners are smelling an economic slowdown. Consequently, they're cheapening down: no airfare, and in some cases, no compensation for the visa run. On top of that, increasingly demanding scheduling and mix of classes, involving more (unpaid) preparation. The golden times are a thing of the past.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HamuHamu wrote:
Yep - North Americans only...preferably female. Same thing that my boyfriend is getting. (British male). Has almost 3 years of experience in Korea (2 years at same hagwan), CELTA certified with Young Learners extension, and a year experience out of Korea. Fantastic references, from all previous employers as well as his CELTA program(s).

NO ONE will hire him. Any recruiters who are bothering to respond are telling him that they can get him 1.5million in the middle of nowhere, but that they can NOT get him a job in Seoul, because he is not American.

It is NOT a Chuseok thing - he has been looking actively since the start of August.

I don't know what has happened that has made the change so drastic. A year ago he didn't have this problem....a year ago he as offered every single job ad he even looked at. Question


I'm in exactly the same boat. English degree, TESL certificate. 4 years experience in Korea. British passport.

I've been in Seoul for 2 weeks now and haven't had a decent offer.

I think there are generally less jobs than before and there's more North Americans coming over who have the preferred accent.
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you are Irish...
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thunndarr wrote:
Well, you are Irish...


That's what I said!
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MixtecaMike



Joined: 24 Nov 2003
Location: 3rd Largest Train Station in Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am employed, so obviously not unemployable, but when I was looking from overseas I was too old, (42) wrong nationality (NZ/Oz) married with kids and in the wrong place (Mexico).

However once I got myself as far as Seoul I was able to get several interviews lined up and I took a nice job out in the boonies, which was where I wanted to be.

Supposing you really are a teacher, but don't look good on paper, you can find a job much easier when you you really are available ASAP tomorrow.

Don't believe the guys here that say you need to earn 2.4 million for hardly any hours a week, look for a school that feels right for you and you can't go wrong. (Well, probably you could, but not so easily as you could accepting a job from half way round the world).

PS Don't be afraid of recruiters, if they offer you crap jobs you don't have to take them, and I never would have found my job if I hadn't used a recruiter.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MixtecaMike,

Thanks for the reassuring words, it is what I need to hear right now. I must admit that although I am starting to get a few bites, the majority do not reply so I am getting a wee bit fed up. I even told one nice recruiter what I thought of hagwon directors who only want the stereotypical young female North American, not a wise idea, but we all need to vent. I am still feverishly applying, plus have some leads for international school jobs here in Indo, but the pay is low and its not where I want to be right now. I think the best thing to do is fly back, like you say, and front and centre for inspection.

Cheers

Jaga
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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

captain kirk wrote:
Sex change ops among male esl'ers in Korea reportedly on the rise. Conveniently accomplished with a small investment while on vacation in Thailand. In related news, increasing numbers of stalking ajoshis surprised by strong right hooks. Smile



Once on a thread that was about dregrees, I stated that I almost did not get my Uni. position because I had a PhD. In addition to my being told at the end of the interview that my PhD might keep me from being offered the position, I was told that my, er, well you know, might also keep me from getting the job. But, they decided to overlook my PhD and my, er, well you know.

Shocked Hey what a coincidence. Both things that almost cost me this job start with the letter "P". Phd and, er, well, you know. Shocked Embarassed Laughing Rolling Eyes Crying or Very sad Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil







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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Jan I'll turn 50. When I see someone reckoning on 42 as being old, even in terms of a Korean hogwan teacher, I laugh. When I was 42 I felt at my best, in the overall sense.

I'm spurning all my bosses' anxious enquiries about a second stint. The deal is not good enough and if I take it I know I'll be taken with dissonance.

I'll be filled with dissonance, cus when I encounter newly recruited "peers" in the highly sought categories and see what I see I know I have to risk it.

Actually, I havn't the slightest doubt that I'll land something that accords with my perceived station in hogwan life.

Does that help you?
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diablo3



Joined: 11 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

32 years old and Australian? HAHA, me too . Koreans traditionally like USA teachers because they grew up with American books and movies. Unfortunately, this is the comfort zone of 99% of Korean students. Never fear teaching, just avoid slang. I had some problems initially with students understanding me for about 1 or 2 weeks. Overall, I was considered to be a popular teacher. Having an Australian accent gives students the opportunity to increase their listening skills. For them, it should be an opportunity, not a hinderance to their learning.

You will find something with no problems. But then again, you can also teach in Indoensia. If you know Indonesian like myself, then staying there will be even easier.

YOU ARE FAR FROM UNEMPLOYABLE, KOREA DEFINITELY NEEDS YOU.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MixtecaMike says 'don't be afraid of recruiters'.
Absolutely. When you're here and looking use recruiters! Smile Whatever it takes to get settled happily FAST.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use recruiters if you want to, but always check things out with the school first. I have not met a completely honest recruiter yet.

This is my third year.

This is what I did, it took me over a month to find a job. I came to Busan, got a room in a yeogwan. Started checking pusanweb every day for jobs. Phoned the numbers I was interested in etc.

The reason it took me so long was that I refused to work for a "kiddies hagwan".

I ended up having to look outside of Busan because I couldn't get a job teaching adults there, at least not back in May.

You may have better luck if you are willing to work in smaller cities, as they have a hard time getting people to go there.

Anyway, I hope this helps.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thunndarr wrote:
Well, you are Irish...


Yeah right!

Who wants to employ some bog-brained Murphy??!! Laughing

It's a little frustrating though. We Irish tend to get a lot of breaks in the English-speaking countries of the world but outside of there we get no respect!!! I mean we don't all drink whiskey with our cornflakes!!!

Hell, some of our under 10-year olds don't drink at all!!!!
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