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korian
Joined: 26 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| a choice about what what the funk? |
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whatthefunk
Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Dont have a clue
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| the post title says "if you had the choice, would it be korea or japan." well, you do have a choice. some people make it sound like theres no way that they could possible cross that tiny little piece of water that stands between the two countries. if you have kids or a wife i guess you have no choice, but the rest of you guys do. if you dont want to be where you are then throw your stuff in a bag and get the hell out. |
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korian
Joined: 26 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:05 am Post subject: |
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i guessthe issue is lining up work before you go. not many people who cross over to japan have work already lined up so it's stepping into a big unknown and one that'l cost you to set up.
in the OP, it was meant that if you had work lined up in each place, which would you choose? |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| korian wrote: |
not many people who cross over to japan have work already lined up so it's stepping into a big unknown and one that'l cost you to set up.
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I disagree with this statement. The two biggest franchises, NOVA and GEOS set you before you go and the JET program sets you up as well. |
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korian
Joined: 26 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:55 am Post subject: |
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yes that is true but they are about the only 3 companies which do out of 1000s. and if you look at what i wrote i said people crossing over to japan from korea.
people working for nova, JET etc don't organise that from korea, they do it from their own countries.
look at websites like ohayosensei, 95% of the jobs advertised there say APPLICANT MUST CURRENTLY RESIDE IN JAPAN.
not the case in korea |
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whatthefunk
Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Dont have a clue
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| yeah, but its easy to get a job in japan if your there... |
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korian
Joined: 26 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:41 am Post subject: |
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how much does it cost to set yourself up though? you got to pay for accommodation, transport to and from interviews, your airfare over there, cleaning clothes, food etc etc
you can arrive in korea with next to zilch in your acct. coz korean schools generally fly you over and give you free accomm.
not so in japan.
i think, from what my friends in japan an others have told me, that japan can be great after you're established there, but getting to that stage can be damn expensive |
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ohahakehte
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The State of Denial
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Big city Japan is just like Big City America with more Japanese people and more noodle shops.
Korea is far from fully developed and has that edge that you won't find anywhere in Japan.
Japan is a nice place to experience.. but for overall experiences good and bad Korea is the place to be... |
what do you mean it has an edge you wont find anywhere in japan? i find the culture in every way in korea to be wanting. when it comes to arts and music, i get the feeling everywhere i go that korea doesnt appreciate its own traditional arts and music and has to bring in everyone elses art so they can gawk at it but not really learn anything from it. as cliched at this sounds, its as if korea is in cultural limbo. it doesnt really want its own culture, but it doesnt want all of the west either.
btw sarcasmkills, i love the tp boys sig photo! him and j-rock are the best |
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waterbaby
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:15 am Post subject: |
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| korian wrote: |
| well i'm 31 and it's been the goldy since i went there in 1990 for schoolies so you must be old....^^ |
Hey, I was there for schoolies week in 1990... did we kiss?  |
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peemil
Joined: 09 Feb 2003
Location: Koowoompa
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Umm... For all it's pitfalls and problems. Korea. Just a little more frustrating and hence interesting than Japan. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| peemil wrote: |
| Umm... For all it's pitfalls and problems. Korea. Just a little more frustrating and hence interesting than Japan. |
Many people get off on the challenge of being frustrated. That's great if you can learn something from it. It does lead to some pretty strange logical conundrums, though. For example, if someone told me that frustration is good for the soul, I may be tempted to test them. If I park my car in their favourite spot, and they complain, I'd say "But isn't frustration good for the soul?" If I order their meal & drinks for them, and they complain because I (deliberately) ordered the wrong thing, I could say "But isn't frustration good for the soul?" You could go on and on and on ...   |
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korian
Joined: 26 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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i'm beginnig to see a pattern here.
i guess people in korea mostly say they like korea coz of it's vitality, unpredictability and the challenges it presents.
and perhaps the people in japan prefer japan coz it doesn't put you in the positions that korea regularly puts you in.
i reckon there's two ways you could go if you went from korea over to japan. you'd either be bored senseless coz it's much more sanitised. or you'd be in bliss coz of its order and non-invasiveness.
where you sit depends on you i suppose. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| korian wrote: |
i reckon there's two ways you could go if you went from korea over to japan. you'd either be bored senseless coz it's much more sanitised. or you'd be in bliss coz of its order and non-invasiveness.
where you sit depends on you i suppose. |
Well, I was already an individualist privacy freak in my own country. Korea was so cosmically removed from my way of thinking that I actually managed to adapt in an ironic sort of way. Those who are locked into a traditional way of thinking either have limited choices or do not realize the full extent of available choices. Because I had not been conditioned by traditional Neo-Confucian values, I could slip through the cracks and do anything I wanted in my free time. It's mainly the difference between looking around with wide eyes and looking through the tunnel at what you are told to notice.
I also know for a fact that going from a very hectic 1st week in Korea to a decadent long weekend in Japan was a breath of fresh air (not quite literally, though). In a similar vein, my first few months back in Australia were far from boring. |
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