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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:20 pm Post subject: I am SAM? |
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| I've noticed my students calling me SAM a lot lately, I'm pretty sure it'san abbreviation of Song saeng nim, just wondered if anyone else gets this? |
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peppergirl
Joined: 07 Dec 2003
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes it is. They originally used it when SMS-ing (�� is a lot shorter to type than ������). |
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visviva
Joined: 03 Feb 2003 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| just be glad it isn't actually your name. argh... |
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T-dot

Joined: 16 May 2004 Location: bundang
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:48 am Post subject: |
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you near daegu?
thats where ive heard it most. its a short term for teacher |
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waggo
Joined: 18 May 2003 Location: pusan baby!
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| Its a Busan dialect word that has travelled up. |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: The Y.C.
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Yeah Saem, is short for teacher.
First week at the school. The students would always say... Saem, Saem... And I would always say... "No... My name is not Sam." Then one of the corrected me and told me that "Saem" is short for Teacher.
I have heard it in Daegu and Busan.
Speaking of dialect. One of the teachers told me that "Alla" is Kyungsan slang for Baby. First I have heard of that. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:20 am Post subject: |
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It's a little disrespectful if they address you that way, from what I gather. It's like saying "hey Teach!"
Sparkles*_* |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| That's kind of what I was asking but I'll take it. Beats the hell out of just being called Peppermint ( not Miss Peppermint) by a third grader. Besides, I am twenty years younger than most teachers at my school, I can see why they'd try it with me. |
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Chillin' Villain

Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Location: Goo Row
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:31 am Post subject: |
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"Hey, Teach!"
- That's great.... I had a couple suburban homeboy students when I was teaching back in Edmonton who'd say that... Thought it was kinda funny... That and "Mr. Dubs" ... (Using "double-u" as an abbreviation for a last name is kinda dumb when the last name has less syllables than the letter...Guess they could've called me "Dubya", but someone else already took that). |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: The Y.C.
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
It's a little disrespectful if they address you that way, from what I gather. It's like saying "hey Teach!"
Sparkles*_* |
I think it varies by region. In Busan, the students would always call their teachers "Saem" . The Korean teachers had no problem with it, meaning its not disrespectful.
But in Kyungbuk , Saem seems to be a little less accepted and I was corrected by a student that saying Su-Hak Saem was not that good. |
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jazblanc77

Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| No, you shouldn't let your kids call you saem. Rule of thumb is to always keep up the teacher act or else they will think you are thier friend and figure that they can get away with a host of other unacceptable behaviours. |
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ThePoet
Joined: 15 May 2004 Location: No longer in Korea - just lurking here
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| No, you shouldn't let your kids call you saem. Rule of thumb is to always keep up the teacher act or else they will think you are thier friend and figure that they can get away with a host of other unacceptable behaviours. |
Say what??? I'm sorry, but that is just NOT true! It's not true from a pedagogical point of view and it certainly isn't true from an anecdotal point of view as a teacher with 8 years of experience in the classroom and 20 as a coach. Being a teacher does not mean you cannot be a friend as well. You simply have to be able to know when to draw the line on friendship -- what is and isn't appropriate.
Being a student's friend doesn't mean taking them out for soju or joining their super-secret-super-hero club but it can mean listening to them and being there for them when they need someone to talk to. I can't begin to count how many times I've had conversations with students that started with "Coach, have you got a minute?" and it turned out to be something where the student really had no place to turn for a problem that probably seemed insurmountable to them until they talked about it and then they could deal with it. Being a teacher-friend can give a student a life-changing perspective that makes it worthwhile to teach (we certainly don't do it to get rich). I've had former students m | |