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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:20 pm    Post subject: I am SAM? Reply with quote

I've noticed my students calling me SAM a lot lately, I'm pretty sure it'san abbreviation of Song saeng nim, just wondered if anyone else gets this?
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peppergirl



Joined: 07 Dec 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is. They originally used it when SMS-ing (�� is a lot shorter to type than ������).
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visviva



Joined: 03 Feb 2003
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just be glad it isn't actually your name. argh...
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T-dot



Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you near daegu?

thats where ive heard it most. its a short term for teacher
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waggo



Joined: 18 May 2003
Location: pusan baby!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a Busan dialect word that has travelled up.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Saem, is short for teacher.

First week at the school. The students would always say... Saem, Saem... And I would always say... "No... My name is not Sam." Then one of the corrected me and told me that "Saem" is short for Teacher. Embarassed


I have heard it in Daegu and Busan.

Speaking of dialect. One of the teachers told me that "Alla" is Kyungsan slang for Baby. First I have heard of that.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a little disrespectful if they address you that way, from what I gather. It's like saying "hey Teach!"

Sparkles*_*
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's kind of what I was asking but I'll take it. Beats the hell out of just being called Peppermint ( not Miss Peppermint) by a third grader. Besides, I am twenty years younger than most teachers at my school, I can see why they'd try it with me.
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Chillin' Villain



Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Goo Row

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Hey, Teach!"

- That's great.... I had a couple suburban homeboy students when I was teaching back in Edmonton who'd say that... Thought it was kinda funny... That and "Mr. Dubs" ... (Using "double-u" as an abbreviation for a last name is kinda dumb when the last name has less syllables than the letter...Guess they could've called me "Dubya", but someone else already took that).
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
It's a little disrespectful if they address you that way, from what I gather. It's like saying "hey Teach!"

Sparkles*_*


I think it varies by region. In Busan, the students would always call their teachers "Saem" . The Korean teachers had no problem with it, meaning its not disrespectful.

But in Kyungbuk , Saem seems to be a little less accepted and I was corrected by a student that saying Su-Hak Saem was not that good.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you shouldn't let your kids call you saem. Rule of thumb is to always keep up the teacher act or else they will think you are thier friend and figure that they can get away with a host of other unacceptable behaviours.
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ThePoet



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: No longer in Korea - just lurking here

PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazblanc77 wrote:
No, you shouldn't let your kids call you saem. Rule of thumb is to always keep up the teacher act or else they will think you are thier friend and figure that they can get away with a host of other unacceptable behaviours.


Say what??? I'm sorry, but that is just NOT true! It's not true from a pedagogical point of view and it certainly isn't true from an anecdotal point of view as a teacher with 8 years of experience in the classroom and 20 as a coach. Being a teacher does not mean you cannot be a friend as well. You simply have to be able to know when to draw the line on friendship -- what is and isn't appropriate.

Being a student's friend doesn't mean taking them out for soju or joining their super-secret-super-hero club but it can mean listening to them and being there for them when they need someone to talk to. I can't begin to count how many times I've had conversations with students that started with "Coach, have you got a minute?" and it turned out to be something where the student really had no place to turn for a problem that probably seemed insurmountable to them until they talked about it and then they could deal with it. Being a teacher-friend can give a student a life-changing perspective that makes it worthwhile to teach (we certainly don't do it to get rich). I've had former students m