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Butterfly
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait
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| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
| I can't see the baiting you're talking about. |
Neither can I. Some people are calling certain Brits on their actions, but the thread isn't actually as the title suggests, there hasn't been much Brit slammin' at all. It is the Brits here actually who have rather embarrassed themselves and been rude about Americans etc.
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I'll stick with clear standard pronunciation and you can do Dr. Phil redneck English. Standard British and American English is perfectly acceptable and speaking like a retarded badly educated buffoon is not acceptable. Perhaps you should start a eubonics hagwon as that is obviously a higher form of the language than the standard.
Who speaks better English Tony Blair or George Bush? Jesus, Bush and most of them red neck morons can barely string a coherent sentence together. ' Ya'll bedder listen to me! Arm gonna bomb you raghead islami-islami fists back inda stone age. Word. |
Kodjak or whateveryernameis, read the thread man, read it. |
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sparkx
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: thekimchipot.com
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| Kodjak or whateveryernameis, read the thread man, read it. |
READ IT! |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| READ IT AND LEARN |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:43 am Post subject: |
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What are we learning here today Dr Dogbert? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
What are we learning here today Dr Dogbert? |
We're learning that alarmism over evangelical Christianity in the U.S. is premature. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 1:58 am Post subject: |
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We're learning that alarmism over evangelical Christianity in the U.S. is premature.
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Ouch, I've just been hit in the left side of the head by flying concept, didn't see it coming at all ...
But while we're here, evangelical christianity has been mobilising with icey efficiency and stealy resolve to work it's way more and more into the political area sinse the 70's. And they've been more and more successful. And finally they have an evangelical pres and most of his top people are evangelical soon. This same holy rolling pres has given us no reason to believe he won't go after abortion laws, and roll back 20 years of progress on the rights of women, gays, and ethnic minorities. Now is definitely the time to be alarmed, there's nothing premature about it. |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Location, location, location.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:31 am Post subject: |
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It ought to be common knowledge that American English is closer to Shakespearean English. I personally like that the word 'gotten', for instance, survives in American. That doesn't make it superior of course. So if American English is closer to the English of the 17th century, is Australian English closer to the English of the late 18th/early 19th centuries?
Bill Bryson wrote that people in the 18th century on both sides of the Atlantic would probably have sounded like Yosemite Sam, pronouncing 'poison' like 'pizen' for instance.
Literacy has changed pronunciation of course since people, again on both sides of the Atlantic, have a tendency to pronounce something as it is written even though this often means making mistakes. So 'often' gets pronounced with a 't'. And is 'vase' pronounced to rhyme with 'base' due to false analogy?
Is Gord ascribing the hard 't' in the British pronunciation of 'water' entirely to increasing literacy? That seems a bit of a stretch, especially since Americans were seemingly immune to the influence of spelling in this case. |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:53 am Post subject: |
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Yes. the whole topic is highly subjective, a matter of opinion. I just enjoyed provoking and reading some of the ideas.
It simply comes down to personal preference. |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:31 am Post subject: |
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So you are now admitting you were wrong, like I said, only you claim you were deliberately being wrong. Sure, whatever you say...  |
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