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Joined: 18 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:29 am    Post subject: Open bank account, with employer Reply with quote

I believe my new employer is fine, however he will go with me tomorrow together to open up a bank account. Is that a risk? If he "cosigned" the account then that would mean he could easily withdraw from it in the future? (didn't say that explicitly, just making an example).

Also, even if a boss didn't cosign, could he withdraw from your account of which he deposits to, either easily or with tricks? Boss opening account together is overall fine?
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on how much he does for you. If he takes the bank book and know the secret pin number he could withdraw. My advice is if your paranoid. Is withdraw your money every month and put it in a seperate acounnt that you have set up yourself. All you need is your passport and and ARC card - to get an account.

Correct me if I am wrong people

Skippy
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nrvs



Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Location: standing upright on a curve

PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:42 am    Post subject: Bank account Reply with quote

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All you need is your passport and and ARC card - to get an account.


I set up an account at Hana Bank last week with just my passport.

I filled out and signed two forms. Then they photocopied my passport, and took 1000 won from me as an initial deposit. I got a bank book and my ATM/check card (usable overseas) should be ready this Friday.

The bank manager spoke English and he was quite friendly. It was easy; there's no need to have anyone else come along.
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some bosses arrange an account for you in order to spy on you better. I've heard stories of bosses who have agreements with their teachers' banks to let them know whenever a lot of money is moved/withdrawn/etc. in lieu of a possible runner.
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whereisjay



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Location: Earth

PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from my experience it is impossible to set up accounts under two peoples names.

I went to KB bank to set up a joint account with my wife, and was told that it is impossible to do this and as an account can only be held under one persons name, so therefor authority for the account can only be held by one person.

So assuming that you are the only one who signed on the application forms, even if anyone tried to use your bank account the bank would be held liable for not doing its job and hence your money would be safe.

I do believe however there is another law in kroea where a wife or husband can access their partners account so long as evidence is provided to show the relationship. this might be one of those old laws, was told it by a korean guy a few years ago...
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whereisjay



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
Location: Earth

PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.B. Clamence wrote:
Some bosses arrange an account for you in order to spy on you better. I've heard stories of bosses who have agreements with their teachers' banks to let them know whenever a lot of money is moved/withdrawn/etc. in lieu of a possible runner.


forgot to say, yes, i have heard of this, remember korea is a corrupt country and if your boss has friends at the bank well they might tell him what is going on and do him favours that are not allowed by law.

i agree, jsut go open another account, KB bank have full english service available in itaewon branch if your cant speak korean and they provide internet banking and telephone banking in english too, otherwise, try citi bank, they have a few branches here, all english, as do HSBC all english too.
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's called power of attorney. They do it because whoever is paying you is required to pay you directly, not the agency. However, we can't be trusted to pay the angency the difference, so they have to control the bank account. It makes sense but seems that there should be a better way.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gesh....
That's a no brainer! Would you give you employer back home your bank info; pin, etc...
no?
then why do it in korea.
Pick a bank..YOU do it, NOT your boss. YOU.
Choose from:
KB Star (Kookmin), KEB or another nation name bank.
DON'T let your boss choose.
These are well known established banks.
While your employer may be trying to help you and has good intentions...you don't know what will happen down the road.
You can go alone to a bank and open an account. You don't need someone to hold your hand do you? Protect your money!
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you want to be walking around with envelopes stuffed full of man won notes your employer will be doing direct deposit. To do this they do need your bank account #. You can open your own account and just pass on the # to your boss.

They should NOT have joint access to your account under any circumstances...unless you are married to them Wink
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think most employers open up joint accounts for their teachers. Most schools prefer their teachers to bank at the same bank because it looks better for them. If they're sending all this money the bank's way, it sure is easier to negotiate a loan on better terms.

Now the bank your school banks with might really, really suck. And that can be bad for you. *cough woori banks* The flip side is if your school does a lot of big money banking, they don't have to wait in line for a teller. They go behind the curtain and deal with the real cute tellers. And when you need help, you can march over to the bank with them speed along the process. That's the advantage.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.B. Clamence wrote:
Some bosses arrange an account for you in order to spy on you better. I've heard stories of bosses who have agreements with their teachers' banks to let them know whenever a lot of money is moved/withdrawn/etc. in lieu of a possible runner.


Thats how they caught the one girl at my school. She was stupid enough to close out her account. Within 15 mins, the Director was calling her trying to find out why she was taking all her money out of the bank.
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teachingld2004



Joined: 29 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:17 am    Post subject: bank account Reply with quote

Just because he is going to go with you to the bank to help u open an account, does not mean he will have access to your secret number. Maybe he is just being nice and will go and help u talk to them. That is all. Just keep the number a secret. And yes, he does need your account number if he is making direct deposits. Does not mean he will have your number so he can withdraw money.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FUBAR wrote:
J.B. Clamence wrote:
Some bosses arrange an account for you in order to spy on you better. I've heard stories of bosses who have agreements with their teachers' banks to let them know whenever a lot of money is moved/withdrawn/etc. in lieu of a possible runner.


Thats how they caught the one girl at my school. She was stupid enough to close out her account. Within 15 mins, the Director was calling her trying to find out why she was taking all her money out of the bank.



Couldn't she just have told him that she was setting up another bank account, or was sending money home, or something along those lines?


Better yet, she could have politely but firmly informed him that it was none of his business. That it was her money and if she wanted to withdraw it for whatever reason, it was her decision and had nothing to do with him.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first posted I was commenting on an older post here about how some schools set up bank accounts in the teachers name to hide money.
Some owners do this with relatives or even friends.

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=23103

School is supposed to get only so much money and the tax man looks at the accounts and sees that only so much goes in and out everything is kosher, but a parent is paying into your accoun so the school is hding money.

It scares me that my school knows my bank account number. All that is protecting my money is 4 digits. If I am lucky a bank might look at my ID card.

Once again get another account when you get paid just transfer it to your other bank.

Skippy The Evil Twin
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