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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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| The Urban Myth wrote: |
If you weren't still here, people might think you have some idea of what you are talking about. If Korea is so bad, why are you still here? You have never answered this question and until you do, don't expect to be taken seriously.
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One can be aware of, and complain about, the problems in Korea, and still stay here for personal reasons that make it worthwhile. And this has absolutely no bearing what so ever on whether one should be taken seriously or not. |
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Real Reality
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Location: Seoul
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manlyboy
Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| Consumer price index has gone up 10% in the last 2 years I believe. I went to the supermarket today and bought ingredients for a basic stew (yes, some of the veges are out of season) - It would have cost less to just order beer and pizza. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
| The Urban Myth wrote: |
If you weren't still here, people might think you have some idea of what you are talking about. If Korea is so bad, why are you still here? You have never answered this question and until you do, don't expect to be taken seriously.
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One can be aware of, and complain about, the problems in Korea, and still stay here for personal reasons that make it worthwhile. And this has absolutely no bearing what so ever on whether one should be taken seriously or not. |
It most certainly does. If someone constantly complains about Korea, has nothing good to say about it (EVER), posts the same news articles OVER and OVER and OVER again, putting Korea in a negative light as possible and still stays here, it makes one wonder. Yes one can complain about Korea and no doubt there are many things to complain about. Dishonest directors, the restrictive E-2 visa, et cetera. Yet most people, even those who complain about Korea daily, still find something good to say about the place, be it their job, girlfriend, or money.
This does not apply to RR. So why does he stay since he obviously hates it so much? Sounds to me like he is hoping to scare foreigners away from here, so the competition for jobs is lesser.
Think about it. If you could not find one good thing about this place, would you be here? Would most of us still be here? I yet have to see Real Reality post one good thing about Korea that he likes, much less give any reasons for staying here. If he did, then people could understand why he is staying. Since he is not, most people don't take him seriously. There was a thread about this not so long ago. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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yemanja
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:57 am Post subject: |
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The won vs. the U.S. dollar is higher than it has been for four years. Makes things more expensive here, but, if you are saving in U.S. dollars- you have been getting a nice pay raise lately.
If you make 2 million won, in July you were earning the equivalent of $1709 U.S., today it is $1787. That's a 5% pay raise in the last few months.
manlyboy
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| Consumer price index has gone up 10% in the last 2 years I believe. I went to the supermarket today and bought ingredients for a basic stew (yes, some of the veges are out of season) - It would have cost less to just order beer and pizza. |
If you go back two years from today, the won/dollar rate was 1234 won to the dollar. Guess what? Today the won is 10% stronger. That sort of accounts for the inflation. This is hard on Koreans, but for those of us linked to the yankee dollar, it is still good news.
http://www.oanda.com/convert/fxhistory
(Course, sometimes my math isn't so good, so feel free to check my figures and I'll feel rightly foolish if I am wrong!  ) |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:32 am Post subject: |
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South Korea's consumer prices climbed 3.8 percent in October from a year earlier, fueled by high oil prices, according to the National Statistical Office (NSO) Monday. The state agency said public service charges such as bus and subway fares, and prices of petroleum and industrial goods increased last month.
Korea Times (November 1, 2004)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/200411/kt2004110115423410440.htm |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:07 am Post subject: |
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It most certainly does. If someone constantly complains about Korea, has nothing good to say about it (EVER), posts the same news articles OVER and OVER and OVER again, putting Korea in a negative light as possible and still stays here, it makes one wonder. Yes one can complain about Korea and no doubt there are many things to complain about. Dishonest directors, the restrictive E-2 visa, et cetera. Yet most people, even those who complain about Korea daily, still find something good to say about the place, be it their job, girlfriend, or money.
This does not apply to RR. So why does he stay since he obviously hates it so much? Sounds to me like he is hoping to scare foreigners away from here, so the competition for jobs is lesser.
Think about it. If you could not find one good thing about this place, would you be here? Would most of us still be here? I yet have to see Real Reality post one good thing about Korea that he likes, much less give any reasons for staying here. If he did, then people could understand why he is staying. Since he is not, most people don't take him seriously. There was a thread about this not so long ago.
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He may have plenty of things he likes about here. He may in fact simply see this site as venue for negative things. The point is you just don't know, and you can't guess at other people's motivations. You may feel that he is perverse for staying, but that's your personal judgement. I still do not see how this has any logical bearing on whether or not he should be taken seriously. That decision should be based on his opinions and how he states them.
Anyway, he hardly writes what he thinks, he mainly posts articles, so the issue of whether or not to take him seriously is rather moot, as it's not his writing and research we're viewing. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
[. I still do not see how this has any logical bearing on whether or not he should be taken seriously. That decision should be based on his opinions and how he states them.
Anyway, he hardly writes what he thinks, he mainly posts articles, so the issue of whether or not to take him seriously is rather moot, as it's not his writing and research we're viewing. |
Exactly. He hardly writes what he thinks. He simply cuts and pastes. Hard to take anyone seriously who does that (without writing his own opinion). If he actually posted balancing articles, you might have a point here. But he doesn't post his opinions here, he only posts negative articles (although I seem to have changed that temporarily). And much of the time they are the SAME articles again and again and again. How would you like it if you were giving reasons that Bush should not be elected and all I replied was "yeah but he's got the popular vote" or versions thereof? |
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inkoreaforgood
Joined: 15 Dec 2003
Location: Inchon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:44 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote: |
[. I still do not see how this has any logical bearing on whether or not he should be taken seriously. That decision should be based on his opinions and how he states them.
Anyway, he hardly writes what he thinks, he mainly posts articles, so the issue of whether or not to take him seriously is rather moot, as it's not his writing and research we're viewing. |
Exactly. He hardly writes what he thinks. He simply cuts and pastes. Hard to take anyone seriously who does that (without writing his own opinion). If he actually posted balancing articles, you might have a point here. But he doesn't post his opinions here, he only posts negative articles (although I seem to have changed that temporarily). And much of the time they are the SAME articles again and again and again. How would you like it if you were giving reasons that Bush should not be elected and all I replied was "yeah but he's got the popular vote" or versions thereof? |
Nothing I haven't said myself here.  |
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kiwiboy_nz_99
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| Exactly. He hardly writes what he thinks. He simply cuts and pastes. Hard to take anyone seriously who does that (without writing his own opinion). |
That's where we dissagree. Because I think the fact that he posts other people's articles reders the question of whether or not to take him seriously quite moot.
What are you not taking seriously? The articles or him? If it's him, you know what he thinks so how can you "not take seriously" what you don't even know???  |
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