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TECO
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Hey, there.
Rightly or wrongly - universities want to beef up the number of Ph.D holders they have.
Next best thing to a Ph.D is an M.A.
Having said that, the better teachers are normally CELTA / TRINITY holders or even certified teachers with a PGCE or B.Ed. in my opinion. |
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rok_the-boat
Joined: 24 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I disagree 100% I don't think that a MA at one of the Australian universities is watered down.
Of course you get out of it what you put into it.
A MA requires 7 classes with an average of three 2000-2500 papers per class. Plus a thesis.
It takes alot of hard work and self motivation to keep up with the coursework and regular teaching work.
Japan and other countries should look at the people who have studied Via distance learning as people who are interested in bettering their craft as a teacher and should be rewarded not penalized. |
I agree. You get out what you put in, and a clever interviewer will be able to tell between the good and the bad. I have a 'legit' MA in a different field and an online MA in Lingusitics. There are good and bad people from both sources. It is the interviewer's job to choose the right people. I have sat in on a couple of panels - it is not too hard to tell. Qualification is only a part of it. But even so, some 'duffers' still slip though - you never really know until you see them on the job. Ph.D? A Ph.D to teach English - pull the other one - Ph.D is research oriented. Anyone with a Ph.D teaching / wanting to teach Interchange 1 is a fool. CELTA is the only sure way to go. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:42 am Post subject: |
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M.A. degrees aren't research oriented?
In Canada they are.
In fact, I don't think there is any such thing as an M.A. Linguistics or TESOL degree that one can do purely by course work, is there?
These seem to be mostly Australian ideas.
I think Australian degrees are going to get a bad reputation for offering 'watered-down' M.A. degrees that will sooner or later not be as respected as those coming from America / Canada and the U.K.
Master and Doctoral level degrees have traditionally been researched-based degrees all over the world. |
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