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Do you hate your teaching job?
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Do you hate your teaching job?
Yes
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No
73%
 73%  [ 41 ]
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I"m happy
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nev



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
Location: ch7t

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's with all this positivity? Real Reality, where are you? We need you to remind us how miserable we are.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nev wrote:
What's with all this positivity? Real Reality, where are you? We need you to remind us how miserable we are.

I guess we are all part of the unreal reality...
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adventureman



Joined: 18 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the people who responded by saying they absouletly loved their jobs, what would you say is the single most important indvidual factor that puts it over the top the top for you and makes you feel really satisfied about going to work everyday? your students? vacation time? support? working hours? variety?

BTW, as much as this seems like a loaded question, Im really not trying to instiagate anything in anyway, just curious...
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adventureman wrote:
what would you say is the single most important indvidual factor that puts it over the top the top for you and makes you feel really satisfied about going to work everyday? your students? vacation time? support? working hours?

All of the above. although only getting 10 weeks of vacation bites when all my friends are getting 20!
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

adventureman wrote:
To the people who responded by saying they absouletly loved their jobs, what would you say is the single most important indvidual factor that puts it over the top the top for you and makes you feel really satisfied about going to work everyday? your students? vacation time? support? working hours? variety?

BTW, as much as this seems like a loaded question, Im really not trying to instiagate anything in anyway, just curious...


Vacation is a bit lean. But apart from that everything else has been great,
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adventureman



Joined: 18 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
adventureman wrote:
what would you say is the single most important indvidual factor that puts it over the top the top for you and makes you feel really satisfied about going to work everyday? your students? vacation time? support? working hours?

All of the above. although only getting 10 weeks of vacation bites when all my friends are getting 20!


So most of your students are pretty motivated? What about required freshmen english classes, do you teach those? Ive heard some of those have huge class sizes and lazy disrespectful students...
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adventureman wrote:
To the people who responded by saying they absouletly loved their jobs, what would you say is the single most important indvidual factor that puts it over the top the top for you and makes you feel really satisfied about going to work everyday? your students? vacation time? support? working hours? variety?

BTW, as much as this seems like a loaded question, Im really not trying to instiagate anything in anyway, just curious...


Everything you've mentioned. My students are almost all pretty good. At the beginning of the semester some don't want to be there but I manage to motivate nearly all of them to take part in the class and have a good time.

My vacation time rocks.

Support is decent. Some people complain about things but I've found that putting forward a good proposal or request gets results.

Working hours are perfect.

The variety is great. I'm teaching a lit class this semester to English majors and next semester I'm teaching an introductory computer class to international studies students. There are also asking for teachers to propose CBS classes so I could, in theory, teach almost anything.
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Jonny Boy



Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Location: Portsmouth, UK

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow!, just read your post Mr poet
I'm preparing to come to teach in Korea as well as start a new life there with my Korean girlfriend. After weeks of research I've read mostly tales of woe from different discussion boards, and other sites!!, leaving me quite anxious about how it will be when I arrive.
Your words are an inspiration to me, thank you and may your happiness and good fortune continue and give hope to others; like little scared ole me.
Jonny Boy
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MixtecaMike



Joined: 24 Nov 2003
Location: 3rd Largest Train Station in Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether you like or dislike your job probably depends as much or more on you than on the job. Some people are happy with anything that includes a decent check paid on time, others can have a screaming hissy fit because the buttons on their appliances are in Korean.

Where I work nobody hates their job; there are days and even kids you might want to drive through at high speed, but over all it's good.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rah rah Confused Canadian. The K-teachers do not take extended vacations. They do more hours than us. They have Korean 'tunnel vision' and the expectations set, the whole kebang, before and after work. About when they should get married, bla di blar. Those K-teachers need a vacation! At one haggie one did. She went to Egypt, can you believe it. That's the spirit, and after stopping in India.
Haggie jobs are sweet. Cahly me crazy but Toad's right. Sweeter if you're 'emotionally available', though that term sounds awkward. If you can put them as people first and get around the 'stick to the book' requirements of most haggies, that's the killing/deadly thing. The drill sergeant mode, the mode their mom's are on. I saw a Mom actually hauling her 12 year old son by his bookbag like a cop hauling a criminal. Why I dunno. Tonight it was the next class after I'd put the daughter of the boss in her place. She was being sassy, 'diplomatic immunity'. Well she comes back (after 'hating my guts') super cheerful and asks about what countries I've visited. Using a little Korean and keeping it simple and exciting I described some visits. To 'Taegook' (Thailand) for one. It's an example of getting along in an interested way. That can be forgotten (the fact they're kids and very capable of being fully alive) for the drill. Play hookey on the boss, like. I forget that 'doing a good job'. The Korean teachers can get more of that in I'm sure, hacking around in Korean.
Some days, 'bad days', I think I hate the boss, the K-teachers, the kids, bla bla. Really. But it tends to break, the fever, like a fight in a hockey game when all the absurdity and fun surf into the forefront. I can't think of any job more lively than working in a haggie. If you want to sit at a desk job and be adult and intelligent you pay the price. There's a Chinese curse, 'may you have an interesting life'. Gotta let stuff go in a haggie. Kids are a carousel but I'd choose the lively atmosphere there over being settled, for now. Plenty of time to be serious when you're dead.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't love the job but I like it most days.

Someone said above, its just some ratbag kids that are the problem.

Took them away and It would be fantastic.
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nrvs



Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Location: standing upright on a curve

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 6:47 am    Post subject: I don't love it, but Reply with quote

I definitely don't hate my teaching job (so far).

Like others have said, the worst part for me are the 1 to 3 jerkoff kids in certain classes. Even then, it's only two classes out of six that are stressful. This is easily balanced by having one class three times a week with only two kids -- good natured and intelligent ones at that.

No real complaints about the management either, especially after reading eslcafe's horror stories. They've been straightforward with constructive criticism and don't make undue demands on my time outside of what's outlined in my contract.
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Alias



Joined: 24 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved teaching kindergarten. I would have done it full time if I could. Unfortunately that wasn't an option.

But I absolutely hated "teaching" the afternoon classes with the elementary kids. What a joke they were. I had no control over most of the classes at all. I could have just accepted it and took my paycheck but it bothered me so bad that I actually quit just 4 months short of the end of my contract. I realize that you have to check your dignity at the classroom door but there is only so much a person can take. They didn't hate me. They just thought I was a white clown that they could swear and throw things at. I also felt like I was part of a scam. The tuition wasn't cheap and these kids weren't learning any English.

So no more kiddie hagwons for me. I hear that my replacement is on the verge of leaving as well. Poor guy.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, I wouldn't ever go back to teaching kids in a hogwon...
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