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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
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 Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:09 am Post subject: Enemy at the Gates hacked to bits? |
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AFN is showing Enemy at the Gates, which I've never seen. However, the editing is so choppy, and gunshots and explosions are being cut out, so one minute a person is strolling along, and the next minute they're a bloody corpse.
Am I correct in assuming AFN is editing this movie, or was it released this way? Also, why would AFN, of all networks, be squeamish about showing violence? If that's the case, why show the movie in the first place? Are they afraid of spooking or re-traumatizing soldiers? |
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Pyongshin Sangja
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:17 am Post subject: |
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I guess you are correct. It's a great movie, ultra-ultra-violent though.
Family values, dear. Bomb Fallujah but keep it off the screens. |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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AFN edits it's programs in prime family time just like any american network.
it's not for the soldiers, it's for their children.
no one can teach mass violence like the US military.  |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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Actually, I think AFN gets them already edited.
I saw Get Shorty on AFN and instead of a plane crash at the beginning of the movie, it had been changed to a train crash, which really confused me. I couldn't see how the 'editors' were able to change, what I thought was, a big story point. Later I read that the production company made two versions, one for release in theaters and another for the airlines, in which they toned down the language, too. Seeing a plane crash while flying is too traumatic for some people, I guess.
I remember a couple of years back when I was watching AFN and saw a topless woman on a Sunday afternoon movie, though I'm sure it was unintended. |
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peemil
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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I just got that out last night.
What an absolute piece of clap trap. I have never seen such a piece of drivel in my life. |
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FUBAR
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Enemy at the Gates hacked to bits? |
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| kermo wrote: |
Am I correct in assuming AFN is editing this movie, or was it released this way? Also, why would AFN, of all networks, be squeamish about showing violence? If that's the case, why show the movie in the first place? Are they afraid of spooking or re-traumatizing soldiers? |
I would assume that AFN gets the same edited version of their movies that American Networks would get. |
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tommynomad
Joined: 24 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| gypsyfish wrote: |
| Seeing a plane crash while flying is too traumatic for some people, I guess. |
I saw "Last Flight of Noah's Ark," a kids movie that openswith a plane crash, on a flight in the 80s. |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| tommynomad wrote: |
| gypsyfish wrote: |
| Seeing a plane crash while flying is too traumatic for some people, I guess. |
I saw "Last Flight of Noah's Ark," a kids movie that openswith a plane crash, on a flight in the 80s. |
All I know is what I read.
http://www.nitpickers.com/movies/nitpick.cgi?np=17431
In flight content
Chances are airplanes can receive TV signals, but because they are often flying so fast that the signal would only last for a few seconds before they got out of range. Also, there are rules for in flight entertainment. Movies which are shown are edited to rid out anything which depicts an airline crash or in flight problems-an example being the film Rain Man where the part where Raymond spouted statistics about airline crashes was left out. Films like Die Hard 2 were not allowed as in flight movies at all. The reason for this is to prevent the passengers from feeling uncomfortable about flying. Some airlines have taped broadcasts of the news. and even these would be edited in the same manner. So even if the plane could receive TV signals, it would be impossible to edit out the content, and thus it would simply not be allowed. Just look at what happened in the movie; when the plane picked up the TV broadcast about the crisis down below the passengers went into a panic. So for security reasons, it simply wouldn't be allowed. |
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mindmetoo
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| Canada's CBC/CTV/Global/City TV rarely edits movies for violence or nudity. When I moved to Seattle, nothing pissed me off like ABC/NBC/CBS editing out all the perfectly good swearing and nudity. Grr. The funniest was True Lies. A French guy says "this shit!" and then repeats his comment in french "c'est merdre!" Like Dave's, they bleeped out shyte but left the french equivalent in. Har. |
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tommynomad
Joined: 24 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| gypsyfish wrote: |
| tommynomad wrote: |
| gypsyfish wrote: |
| Seeing a plane crash while flying is too traumatic for some people, I guess. |
I saw "Last Flight of Noah's Ark," a kids movie that opens with a plane crash, on a flight in the 80s. |
All I know is what I read.
http://www.nitpickers.com/movies/nitpick.cgi?np=17431
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Interesting and reasonable, but hardly hard evidence. More like one nitpicker's opinion. Anyway, who regulates? And who missed the boat (plane?) on the kids' movie I saw? I wasn't that traumatised--I still love flying--but some people probably weren't too thrilled. |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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http://www.nitpickers.com/movies/nitpick.cgi?np=17431
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Interesting and reasonable, but hardly hard evidence. More like one nitpicker's opinion. Anyway, who regulates? And who missed the boat (plane?) on the kids' movie I saw? I wasn't that traumatised--I still love flying--but some people probably weren't too thrilled.[/quote]
This is from Internet Movie Database. Better evidence?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113161/alternateversions
Alternate Versions for Get Shorty (1995)
To accomodate the rule that aeroplane crashes cannot be shown on flights, in the in-flight movie version the guy who owes $300,000 escapes from a train crash, instead of a plane crash. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| tommynomad wrote: |
| gypsyfish wrote: |
| tommynomad wrote: |
| gypsyfish wrote: |
| Seeing a plane crash while flying is too traumatic for some people, I guess. |
I saw "Last Flight of Noah's Ark," a kids movie that opens with a plane crash, on a flight in the 80s. |
All I know is what I read.
http://www.nitpickers.com/movies/nitpick.cgi?np=17431
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Interesting and reasonable, but hardly hard evidence. More like one nitpicker's opinion. Anyway, who regulates? And who missed the boat (plane?) on the kids' movie I saw? I wasn't that traumatised--I still love flying--but some people probably weren't too thrilled. |
I thought it was pretty common knowledge that in-flight movies almost always have references to airplane crashes edited out. In fact, they have a lot of other things edited out that might be considered objectionable. The movie industry has gotten on board and frequently shoots different scenes to fulfill the requests of the airline industry, which is an important market for films that flop at the box office. |
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