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[J.B. Clamence]

[Gollum]

Does this scare anyone else?

They even do official transcripts.



http://www.instantdegrees.com/

http://www.custom-degrees.com/samples.php


The scary thing is that not only does some person pay them several hundred dollars for a degree, they must also give them lots of personal information that could easily lead to things like Identity theft.

Would be difficult to explain all of this to the police.

[kimchikowboy]

Shadow wrote:

[rapier]

[ajuma]

While not having a degree in English, TESOL or education (I have a BSW), I still have a position (lecturer, professor, teacher...call it what you will!) at a uni.

I also took the CELTA course (in Prague...great in summer, don't do it in winter!!) and found it very challenging, even though I had been teaching for 2 years before taking the course. Having been in front of a class before, I had few problems with the presentation portion of the course (except that I learned the hard way to ACTUALLY DO all of the gap-fill exercises BEFORE teaching them! ), but the lesson planning and grammar evaluation portions helped me immensely as a teacher. I'd recommend it strongly to anyone who wants to better him or herself as a teacher.

[TECO]

LOL!!

Funny schit....

Yeah, when I was in Bangkok back in June doing my CELTA I went down to Kao San Road for the evening.

I talked to a guy on the sidewalk who told me that he would print me a degree with transcripts from a selection of Canadian schools.

Cost - B5,000, I think is what he said.

[Real Reality]

Ghostwriters investigated: Firms selling graduate projects face charges
Many academic degrees have been conferred upon unqualified students, the prosecution said. The Seoul District Prosecutors Office arrested and indicted Sunday the president of a ghostwriting business, as well as two ghostwriters and 11 customers, who were indicted without detention.
The head of the company hired ghostwriters of doctoral degrees, often college undergraduates, and let them write master's theses for customers, the prosecution said. The customers paid between 1.5 million won and 4 million won per thesis.

According to the prosecution's investigation, most of the fake theses passed examinations. The universities that administered those examinations reportedly included top universities in Seoul. "The customers gave minimal information to the ghostwriters, such as a title and table of contents, and the writers researched and found references," said prosecutor Park Seong-hoon.

A professor who was part of an examination committee that accepted several ghostwritten theses said, "The quality of the theses was poor, but I didn't want to disqualify them. I never knew they were written by others." The prosecution suspects that at least 30 illegal ghostwriting businesses are in operation.
by Kang Joo-an
JoongAng Daily (March 17, 2003)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200303/17/200303170205221879900090409041.html

[Keepongoing]

Just don't call me late for lunch!

It is about standards and available positions.

In my Univerrsity in the States, San Jose State, we have Instructors and Lecturers with PHd's. Having a PHd does not automatically make one a Professor. All of our Professors had published works, amongst which were books.

It is all about standards, the standards in Korea are different .

[Kwangjuchicken]

I think it depends on the situation. I have a PhD in Foreign and Second Language Education. I tell the university students to call be by my first name. A few still call me "Teacher". But after a few times of me telling them what to call me there is no problem. And, now that I have been here awhile, students whom I don't know call me by my first name.

And then there are the kids in the Children programs. It takes a bit longer to get them to stop calling me teacher and call me by my first name. There are tons of teachers, but only one me.

But, I was a bit disappointed with the name cards they gave me. It is the same as the Korean professors. One side in Korean and one in English. On the Korean professors cards ONLY on the English side, it has PhD after their name. Mine, does not.

Also, every job I have had, the English version of the contract has the president's name with, PhD after it. Mine never does. But, before I sign it, (the English version) I add with pen PhD after my name.

Now, as for professor, it has two meanings. One, it is rank. Most people who teach in a college or university even with a PhD and tenure etc. will never be the rank of professor.
The other meaning is job. If you teach in a college or a university, you are a professor.


Professor Chicken, PhD has sopken.



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[procall]

[ajuma]

procall: Ever done either??

[TECO]

[Kwangjuchicken]

[Keepongoing]