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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:25 am Post subject: "I want to go to America"- the Korean dream. |
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Did you happen to notice the huge wave of attractive koreans marrying Bangladeshi DDD workers lately?..No, neither did I. Because it doesn't exist. No, every Korean woman wants to marry a passport, preferably with the words "USA" or "Canada" written large on it.
Doesn't it make you sick to hear over and over bright eyed Koreans raving on about going to "paradise" ahem,,..USA?Canada constantly, usually under guise of "studying" (Invariably business study), but always all out to marry a rich westerner... The stated goal of one of my co-workers is to marry a millionaire Canadian within the next 2 years..she's serious too. Isn't it all a bit silly/misguided/unrealistic? Another one wants to study business to work for a big company in the states so as to meet a rich American businessman..yet another wants to study in canada to find a husband, another is going to the US to study music so as to become a famous musician in the famous philharmonic orchestra...blah blah..these 4 out of 6 Korean co-workers. But the ratio never changes across Korea, seemingly 75% of all Korean women want to go live in sheer luxury in America where everyone is rich and its so easy.
I know Koreans rave on about having a big dream constantly..but why not work to make Korea a better place to live, instead of going to the west hellbent on concreting over that country with Korean businesses to become rich? Why treat foreigners like outsiders here ("Miguks go home") and then expect to be welcomed through immigration, granted a green card or enjoy cheaper students fees for prestigious uni. courses than they'd pay here..?
What I want to know is:
a) How many Koreans does canada/U.S let in every year? Is it easy for them to get in?
b) How many of those return to Korea later, either missing Kimchi, or realising America is not 100% as seen on TV?
c) Does the sight of a U.S. passport turn on a korean woman more than any other factor in a potential husband? Or does the canadian passport make them even more dizzy?
d) How many parasitic Korean hotties dump their ugly dweeb western boyfriend (hosts") the moment they're granted citizenship?
e) Is the U.S /Canada really the IT place to be on this entire planet, really that wonderful? Because for some reason I've never been attracted to going there...if its so fabulous though, do you think they'll let me in? Cos I love eating hamburgers. |
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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| Rapier, seriously. You must realize that your co-workers are not an accurate representation of all Korean females (if I assume you're talking about English teachers -- right?) They may have even chosen their profession because they had the desire to live in a foreign country and wanted to increase their chances of falling in love with a foreign man. When I worked in a hagwon with 10 Korean female teachers, not one of them wanted to live abroad, although a few of them dated western men for the fun of it. 75%??? You can't seriously think that. |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: hiding out
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:49 am Post subject: |
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rapier i like your new signature, being a big fan of joey greco. made me laugh.
i think casey's moon hit on something there....you're working with women who speak english, which means they might have already had a previous desire to go to another country. you're not dealing with a representative piece of the population. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| I'd say he is fairly on the money. The Koreans are, how you say, in a slump. I hear this kind of thing all the time. |
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jaebea
Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Location: SYD
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:03 am Post subject: |
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If this were the truth, then gyopos would be seen as a relatively free and painless ride out of Korea. They'd be the most sought after social commodity next to botox and a pair of expensive shoes.
Unfortunately, this isn't the case... :)
Not to say that rapier's post isn't indicative of more than a few Korean women, but 75% is a rather exaggerated in my opinion. Perhaps 15%, maxing out at 25%.
As lightheaded Korean women may seem, they tend to put in a lot of thought when it comes to their future and family. They know that a shotgun wedding and an express greencard isn't exactly a sure fire ticket to a comfortable life.
As more and more Koreans live abroad, any real glamour image comes off and it's pretty clear to see that living in a strange country isn't exactly a walk in the park. I'm sure a lot of Korean women have realised this.
At least that's what I think anyway.. :)
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inexhile
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I hear alot of the same from Korean females. At 1st I thought "wow how cool!! these women are really progressive and have high goals". But now I too am jaded by what obviously is a get a good life quick scheme.
I even have been told by Korean women that they or their friends married for the passport. Not much fun tryin to 2nd guess if your spouse really loves you I bet.
A few Korean women state that love is a different concept to them though. Korean women "have a feeling about someone and learn to love them day by day". Needless to say, If you got a bleak future and no real prospects, then a foreigner with a ticket outta here is indeed someone you could learn to love "day by day".
I am however ambivalent as I know what is expected of many women here. Also, maybe they cannot marry a korean e.g. if their parents are divorced, few korean men will look at them. So maybe the only way is to chase a foreigner. |
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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| You guys are serious? Hmm... how old are these women? Could it be that the women I worked with were from a different sub-generation? The women I worked with were hovering around the age of 30, and are now all in their early 30s... Are you guys talking about early 20s? |
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inexhile
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:19 am Post subject: |
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My info comes from the early 20's to early 30's age bracket. but as previously stated these are girls that have grafted hard to learn English and even travel abroad. So although 75% of the general female population doesn't fit this stereotype. Maybe a fairly high percentage of the English speaking K girls do.
I've been dating alot of girls and the compelling 1st date impression is they don't want to be here. And I have been here long enough to have Korean girl friends who speak with me quite frankly about the desire and reasons to leave. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: ...Enlightenment...
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, there is a sub group exactly like you describe. I'm not a sociologist so I don't want to get into guessing about percentages, which is pretty useless. I also am not particularly interested in the phenominon, as I'm more interested in my life than someone elses, and if I catch even a whiff of that kind of rubbish then that person has no place in my life ... |
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Harin

Joined: 03 May 2004 Location: Garden of Eden
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| thought most korean girls don't want to marry a non-korean - ya know...the pure blood thingy.... |
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Blind Willie
Joined: 05 May 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Bitrex is the most bitter substance yet discovered. It is used principally as an aversive agent to prevent accidental or deliberate ingestion of many products.
Bitrex can be detected by taste at 10ppb and is recognisably bitter at 50ppb (1). For the purpose of denaturing alcohol, Bitrex is added at a rate of between 6ppm and 50ppm (depending on national regulations). In other applications, generally 10 to 100ppm is sufficient.
1. A trial to determine detection and bitterness recognition threshold of Bitrex hydrate and denatonium saccharide. Inveresk Research International report. No3189 (September 1984) |
The most bitter substance yet discovered?
I guess they haven't found this thread yet. |
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kiwiboy_nz_99

Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Location: ...Enlightenment...
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Bllind Willie wrote: |
The most bitter substance yet discovered?
I guess they haven't found this thread yet. |
Well, that's true now, but only since you entered it ... |
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peemil

Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Location: Koowoompa
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll agree with the OP. |
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weatherman

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| What is funny is that they state these ideas so matter of factly. They have it in their heads that the dream is reality. Looking ahead 10 years from now, most will be married with kids in Korea. Why the show when it seems a like a boost and leads to embarrassment? |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Rapier, as soon as the status of gay marriage is secured in the Yoo Ess, I'll marry you and get you that green card, which was actually pink (quel appropriate!) last time I saw one. |
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